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Rotary10-RV said:
George, Where did you see that price for a NEW O-360? Vans lists the O-360 (180 HP) at $23,925.00 new, and you have to have bought a kit from them to get that price! That is a difference of $4,500.00 bucks people might want to know. Bill Jepson Rotary10-RV
New Lycoming engine prices, (ECI or Superior)
http://www.aerosportpower.com/Prices.htm#NewEngines
New Aero Sport Power O-360 Engines:
Fixed Pitch (A2A) Outright with ECI Components $ 19,800.00
Constant Speed (A1A) Outright with ECI Components $ 20,300.00
($500 cheaper for the O-320 fixed/constant speed)
http://www.mattituck.com/
Selection Engine Description Price
Standard TMX O-360 180 hp Engine for Fixed Pitch
$ 19,490.00
Standard TMX O-360 180 HP Engine for Constant Speed $ 19,790.00
True above are not a Textron Lycoming, but than this is for an experimental. Prices have gone up from $19,200 about $190.
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This is what I paid for my O-360A1A (180HP) Textron Lycoming $9,500
For entire firewall forward including constant speed prop and all required accessories, about $14,500
I bought an O-360A1A (firewall fwd) with 700hours since major (about 2600 total).
I paid $2500 for engine with extra parts and sold the exhaust, wet vacuum pump, generator (yes a generator), two magnetos, feathering prop and prop governor (came off a Piper Apache twin with a 180hp conversion). I ended up having about $1500 into the engine after I got rid of all the stuff. I did not have to rebuild it but there was a suspected prop strike with the engine shut down (long story), but I had it checked out. The crank was fine, but decided to overall it why it was open.
Overhauled O-360A1A new EVERYTHING required/recommended by Lycoming during overhaul, valves, pistons, rings, etc & (overhauled cylinders and Carb) Crank inspected checked out, stress relieved and re-cad plated.
Core Cost of Lycoming O-360A1A core $1,500
Cost to Overhaul above Lycoming per above $8,000
Purchased overhauled used Hartzell HC-C2YK constant speed prop $2,500
Purchased yellow tagged Prop Gov Woodward 201105 $300
Purchased New ND alternator and brackets $225
Purchased new Custom 4 into 1 exhaust to my specs w/ heat muff $700**
Purchased new SkyTec starter (eBay special) $250
Purchased used Stewart Warner oil cooler and overhauled at POC, $250
Purchase Misc parts, throttle, mixture, prop controls, Vans airbox, brackets $250
Purchase dual electronic ignition, est. approx price $2000
Freebie, almost new mechanical pump & spin on oil filter adapter $0
TOTAL
Just for the engine with all the accessories except carb, taken out $9,500.
Approx price $ 14,500 for Zero time O-360A1A with new accessories and dual electronic ignition, constant speed prop.
Now for autoengines:
I would like to see an auto engine do better than that. What does a scrambled Egg sell his Subaru engine for? OR PowerSport Rotary cost?
I think a Egg goes for close to $30,000.00
You can by a whole Subaru Outback or Forester for less than that. That is crazy money. Plus you have to go thru the monkey motions of adding extra batteries, fuel pumps (including a $400 6-port fuel selector) and plumb all that plus the radiator stuff. That does not even include an expensive electric (sucks) prop, which cost another $8,500. What happened to cheap power? Also if you have a special Egg part or Real-World-Solution rotary engine part/accessory, only Egg or RWS can sell it to you. You are stuck with their price, if they are still in business.
I can get Lycoming parts (pistons, cylinders, valves, cranks, cases,..) and accessories (Props, governors, ignitions, fuel pump, oil coolers, etc..) from 1000's of retailers, shops and maintenance facilities.
There are 3 manufactures of "Lycoming" engines. For Lycoming parts and accessories there are: 4 manufactures of electronic ignitions, 2 manufactures of fuel injection, 5 manufactures of hydraulic constant speed props (and at least 5 fixed pitch prop makers), 4 manufactures of light wt. starters, 4 manufactures of exhaust (recommend Aircraft Exhaust below) and the list goes on and on.
I hope that answers your question, for those who want the cheaper, easier to install and more parts availability of Lycoming power. You get what you pay for.
Cheers George
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