Toobuilder
Well Known Member
I'll tell you what - I'm going to make sure my next engine does not have "Lycoming" shown as the manufacturer anywhere on it!
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what does Experimental really mean....FAA problem
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I'll tell you what - I'm going to make sure my next engine does not have "Lycoming" shown as the manufacturer anywhere on it!
jnorris
Well Known Member
Brian,
I'm not Mel, but I'll comment on your question anyway. According to FAA guidance, once you have submitted the application package you cannot ask for it back. If the FAA tells you that something needs to be redone that's not the same as giving your application back.
That being said, if you really feel this guy is missing the boat you are welcome to ask to talk to his supervisor. And if the supervisor doesn't listen you can go farther up the FAA chain. However, this approach can get ugly so unless you really feel like you want to pick the fight you're usually just better off to do what they ask and move on.
Stuff like static port marking is a bit off base but easy to comply with so why fight it? The data plate really shouldn't be an issue either, but if it would make him happy just take the danged thing off! Hopefully you and he can reach some sort of middle ground and get your plane off the ground! Good luck!
No, there is no requirement for an engine on an experimental aircraft to have any type of data plate or identifying mark. It's recommended of course, for maintenance tracking purposes if for no other reason, but it's not required. The only data plate required on an experimental aircraft is the aircraft ID plate itself on the airframe. Nothing is required on the engine, propeller or any accessories.
hydroguy2
Well Known Member
We have an airplane!
Inspector was very pleasant today. The paperwork that needed redone was for my Repairmans Cert. He was ok with the engine dataplate. We discussed the AD issue to both our understanding and satisfaction. the static ports were labeled per his request...I just hope the adhesive sticker doesn't fail
later today.
Hooray
Inspector was very pleasant today. The paperwork that needed redone was for my Repairmans Cert. He was ok with the engine dataplate. We discussed the AD issue to both our understanding and satisfaction. the static ports were labeled per his request...I just hope the adhesive sticker doesn't fail
later today. Hooray
Jeff Vaughan
Well Known Member
CONGRATS!!!!
Sam Buchanan
been here awhile
Toobuilder
Well Known Member
Congrats!
...Change your signature
...Change your signature
hydroguy2
Well Known Member
.....I'd suggest you find a different place for your airworthiness certificate though!!
Fly safely!!
BUT, BUT....he said I need to have it visible for anyone who walks up, to be able to see it.
BSwayze
Well Known Member
Wow, Finally!
CONGRATULATIONS, Brian!!!!
I've been following this emotional roller-coaster ride with you, and I can't even imagine the relief you must feel to finally have it all behind you. I'm on the edge of my seat now, waiting to hear about your maiden flight. PLEASE keep us posted.
Have fun and be safe!
CONGRATULATIONS, Brian!!!!
I've been following this emotional roller-coaster ride with you, and I can't even imagine the relief you must feel to finally have it all behind you. I'm on the edge of my seat now, waiting to hear about your maiden flight. PLEASE keep us posted.
Have fun and be safe!
Flying Scotsman
Well Known Member
Congratulations! Enjoy your accomplishment, and post pics of that first flight!
Steve (who is starting to allow himself to dream of that day... )
Steve (who is starting to allow himself to dream of that day...
)
Mike S
Senior Curmudgeon
BUT, BUT....he said I need to have it visible for anyone who walks up, to be able to see it.
Better get a second one for the other side of the plane then.
Good Job, Congrats!!
rv7boy
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10,654 Views!!!
As of right now, your thread has been viewed 10,654 times according to Doug's ViewOmeter! I don't know if that's a record for the short time since you posted it, but it is certainly a thread which will be remembered for a long time!
Congratulations, Brian, and thanks for sharing your labor and travails with us. This is an example of how valuable these VAF forums are.
As of right now, your thread has been viewed 10,654 times according to Doug's ViewOmeter! I don't know if that's a record for the short time since you posted it, but it is certainly a thread which will be remembered for a long time!
Congratulations, Brian, and thanks for sharing your labor and travails with us. This is an example of how valuable these VAF forums are.
fstringham7a
Well Known Member
RE:Congrats....
Hi Brian
All as I got to say is Bravo Zulu ...... (WELL DONE) ...... Now how about that first flight report!!!!!!
Frank @ 1L8 ...RV7A... Flying & Tracken
Hi Brian
All as I got to say is Bravo Zulu ...... (WELL DONE) ...... Now how about that first flight report!!!!!!
Frank @ 1L8 ...RV7A... Flying & Tracken
Here is what I don't understand about inspectors...... this guy had a thorn up his a$$ about the static port but ignored the fact that the N- number painted on this a/c was not in compliance...................
Inspectors are strange people................................. But, CONGRATS BRIAN... Let the fun began!!!
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Joe Parish
Well Known Member
Airworthy
Congrats Brian, way to go! We expect a full report on the first flight, enjoy it, you earned it
Congrats Brian, way to go! We expect a full report on the first flight, enjoy it, you earned it
N941WR
Legacy Member
Brian,
What am I missing?
I checked the FAR's and read Sec. 45.22, Part 45 IDENTIFICATION AND REGISTRATION MARKING Subpart C--Nationality and Registration Marks. Other than the Font (The font should be Roman.), I see nothing wrong with it.
But then, even my temporary N-numbers are wrong because they use the wrong font.
jnorris
Well Known Member
Font is arguably wrong, but the specific departure from Part 45 would be the thickness of some of the lines making up the characters (1/6th of the height) and the spacing of some of the characters (2/3 the width, which equates to 1/6th the height as well).
These dimensions are commonly missed by builders, and often by inspectors as well. The fact is most N numbers don't meet the letter of the law as called out in part 45, including some coming right out of the factory on brand new type-certificated airplanes.
Details, details!!
az_gila
Well Known Member
"Roman" does not...
...describe the font - it describes the alphabet used....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin_alphabet
...describe the font - it describes the alphabet used....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin_alphabet
Mike S
Senior Curmudgeon
YEP
I took the EAA booklet to the sign shop, had them read, and make a copy of the specifications for the number, and it was still wrong when I went to pick it up. They had to re do it to correct the line width, and spacing.
Font is arguably wrong, but the specific departure from Part 45 would be the thickness of some of the lines making up the characters (1/6th of the height) and the spacing of some of the characters (2/3 the width, which equates to 1/6th the height as well).
These dimensions are commonly missed by builders, and often by inspectors as well. The fact is most N numbers don't meet the letter of the law as called out in part 45, including some coming right out of the factory on brand new type-certificated airplanes.
Details, details!!
I took the EAA booklet to the sign shop, had them read, and make a copy of the specifications for the number, and it was still wrong when I went to pick it up. They had to re do it to correct the line width, and spacing.
az_gila
Well Known Member
This font is probably the closest...
...you will come to meeting the specifications.
http://www.dafont.com/font.php?file...d=10&text=TEST&nb_ppp=10&psize=l&classt=alpha
Add it to the "Fonts" directory and use it in Bold.
It's a gnat's *&^%$ skinny on the line width, but closer than the "standard" Helvetica or Arial.
...you will come to meeting the specifications.
http://www.dafont.com/font.php?file...d=10&text=TEST&nb_ppp=10&psize=l&classt=alpha
Add it to the "Fonts" directory and use it in Bold.
It's a gnat's *&^%$ skinny on the line width, but closer than the "standard" Helvetica or Arial.
