My plane has the same alternator. The original builder used a regular spade coupler for the field wire. I'm a part 121 wiring guy and a spade terminal doesn't work too well with me. Does anyone have a part number and a source for the correct plug that will lock into this alternator?
Bobby....sent you a PM. Mine is the 35 amp model Nippon Denso 14184. It is externally regulated. The model 14684 is 60 amps and internally regulated. Don't know what make/model car it fits...but don't think you'd need that if you just give them the model number of the alternator.
Finished installing mine today and running fine. I have a blast tube for cooling directed at back of alternator.
That is the model number I had in my notes, so I guess I'm ready when the time comes! 860 hrs and counting.
My notes also say that most auto parts houses no longer carry that part number, but a direct plug in replacement is model number 14824 for a 1987 Suzuki Samurai
Just adding on to this thread as I'm in the process of searching for an auto version replacement for my Plane Power.
Just adding on to this thread as I'm in the process of searching for an auto version replacement for my Plane Power. 14824 is not a direct replacement for the 14184. The 14184 uses an external regulator (which is what I want). The 14824 is internally regulated.
The 14184 does not appear to be commonly stocked anymore, at least in my town, but OReilly Auto just needed 2 days to get one in. Ideally I'd like to find an externally regulated drop-in alternative to the 14184 that is kept in stock by most auto part stores so that when I'm away from home I have any easy alternator fix. If anyone knows of a 14184 equivalent that is externally regulated (35-60 amps OK), please let me know.
Thanks for the idea, Mike. I noticed this has the wider mounting arm, more like the Plane Power, and it appears to be clocked just like the PP so that the original straight tensioning arm I got with my PP should also work.The Nippondenso P/N 210-0237 (Lester #14757) fits a 1987-89 Honda Civic with A/C and is rated for 55 amps. It is internally regulated and turns the "correct" way. .....
....As supplied the alternator has a 3-groove, 15mm ID pulley but you can change that. You may also have to change the spacer arrangement on the mount for proper pulley alignment.
The only other thing I did was stabilize the stator wires that go to the diode assy with some thick glue-filled shrink tubing.
The Nippondenso P/N 210-0237 (Lester #14757) fits a 1987-89 Honda Civic with A/C and is rated for 55 amps. It is internally regulated and turns the "correct" way. You can add one of Bob Nuckolls' over voltage modules or do what I did to modify the alternator for an external regulator: http://www.aeroelectric.com/articles/Alternators/One-Wire_Alternator_Conversion.pdf
As supplied the alternator has a 3-groove, 15mm ID pulley but you can change that. You may also have to change the spacer arrangement on the mount for proper pulley alignment.
The only other thing I did was stabilize the stator wires that go to the diode assy with some thick glue-filled shrink tubing.
Seems like a lot of work but it was kind of a "science-fair" project for me. The alternator was $85 at O'Reilly's, with a lifetime warranty. Pulleys and other parts can be had at: https://www.alternatorparts.com/
I don't have my alt number handy. I looked at the 14184, but needed more capacity. There were some good cross-reference tools out there that let me jump across different models. Finally settled on a a late 80' vintage Honda model. Then found a variety of alternators that would work in that configuration, both CW and CCW. I ended up with a 50 amp CCW externally regulated with a larger V pulley (larger is better for us airplane guys with larger crank pulleys). I paid about $40 on Amazon.
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I will grab the alt # tomorrow if I go to the plane.
Larry
I don't have my alt number handy. I looked at the 14184, but needed more capacity. There were some good cross-reference tools out there that let me jump across different models. Finally settled on a a late 80' vintage Honda model. Then found a variety of alternators that would work in that configuration, both CW and CCW. I ended up with a 50 amp CCW externally regulated with a larger V pulley (larger is better for us airplane guys with larger crank pulleys). I paid about $40 on Amazon.
Most all auto engines turn CW (viewed from drivers seat) and most turn the alternator the same direction. Our Lyc engines turn CCW. YOu want a CCW alt if you can. A CW will still pull some air through it, so don't remove the fan. If it wasn't necessary, it wouldn't be there.
I will grab the alt # tomorrow if I go to the plane.
Larry
Just adding this to the thread. The alternator is a 32A, from an 80s era Toyota. I'm using a B&C LR-2 external regulator. I'm thinking of putting a larger dia. pulley on it when I get a round tuit.
Thank you. I didn't know the ring gear pulleys came in different sizes. I didn't want to mess with it anyway!I would leave the pulley alone. It looks like your ring gear pulley is the smaller one so it won't overspeed the alternator.
is exactly what I have been trying to answer.
I would prefer 45 to 60 amp output, but the legacy ND seems to be limited to about 35 amps, and is often not a stock item. There seems to be some ND alternators that have screw connectors, vice the dreaded plug connectors, typically seen on some Chrysler/jeep products, but I have not found the magic number yet.
The local alternator shop has been less than helpful in this matter.
Thank you. I didn't know the ring gear pulleys came in different sizes. I didn't want to mess with it anyway!