Desert Rat
Well Known Member
I already have an A&P, so what is the pro/con calculus on getting the repairman certificate for my chariot as well? Other than adding to my plastic card collection, can anybody think of some benefit?
No benefit at all. Some people think that if something goes wrong and you're doing the inspection under your repairman cert that it will protect your A&P cert.
My FSDO told me that once I had my A&P, that OKC wouldn’t issue me any additional Repairman Certificates…but I never went to look for that in the guidance docs…..
Only if you decide to not be truthful about who built the airplane.
I stand corrected. It does say "be the primary builder". I forgot about that part.
Yes, I can think of a benefit and the reason I want one (in addition to my Mechanic’s Cert) for my homebuilt: It would be the only certificate I hold which doesn’t have a currency requirement. When you get a plastic card collection in becomes a PITA meeting all the currency requirements. My FSDO didn’t tell me I couldn’t get one, they just told me I don’t need one and ignore my requests.
I don’t think you have to have built the major portion, but rather, you (singular), or you, working with other amateur builders, must have built the 51%…. E.g., you may have had unpaid partners. But only one repairman certificate per airplane.
Straight quote from the FAA. Doesn't matter what "we think".
Yes. Condition Inspections for E-AB aircraft don't require an IA sign off, just vanilla A & P or the holder of the Repairman's Cert for that airframe.
Straight quote from the FAA. Doesn't matter what "we think".
May I obtain a repairman certificate for my own amateur-built aircraft?
You may obtain a repairman certificate for your own amateur-built aircraft if you built the major portion of the aircraft. The only privilege this certificate gives you is contained in 14 CFR section 65.104, "Repairman Certificate - experimental aircraft builder - Eligibility, privileges and limitations", i.e., to do the annual condition inspection.
The privileges and limitations for repairmen are in 14 CFR section 65.103, "Repairman certificate: Privileges and limitations". To obtain a certificate, apply through your local FAA Flight Standards District Office.
Just a nit. Primary builder is essentially a self-designated appellation. When submitting the FAA Form 8130-12, Eligibility Statement Amateur-Built Aircraft, the builder or builders are listed attesting they followed the major portion rule in part 21. A sole builder is by default the primary builder. In a group build all of the builders listed on the 8130-12 are considered primary builders regardless of how much they contributed to the actual build. All that matters is they are listed as a builder and collectively the group completed at least the major portion (aka 51%) of the fabrication and assembly of the project. At that point anyone, but just one, in the group can apply for and obtain the Repairman's Cert for that aircraft.
Very good, and accurate explanation.
Same for me. The FSDO inspector saw the form and noted I had an A&P so didn't need it. I just said I'd like it anyway. No problem he said as he signed it. Just a psychological thing after 19 years of building I guess.
I just read this at EAA webiste, here's the link, for refence.
If you built an EAB you get the repairman free. Just apply. Take the 5 min. If you keep plane and don't renew A&P... (if you exercise A&P privileges it has to be valid. Yes. Same w/ Pilot cert for life. Usless w/o medical and flight review w/i 2 yrs.)
There is no renewal or currency requirement for A&P. There's a 2 year renewal for IA but not for A&P.
Thanks I was thinking IA.
The charging is interesting question. Don't know. Find out let us know.
