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Old 05-13-2009, 11:46 AM
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Unhappy Backfire and burble trouble.

I am having real trouble with my IO-360 engine burbling and making all sorts of testosterone exhaust type noise as I throttle back. I have to make this verrrrry slowly to keep it from making all kinds of noise. What should I be looking for and how do I fix it?

I have been advised that this could be air in the exhaust, so I borrowed a smoke generating exhaust leak detection tool. There is quite a bit if leakage between the short stack and the main crossover pipes. How do I stop this? Should I have the pipes welded or can I tape them up somehow, at least for a test. Welds seem to be a bad idea but may be the answer. Opinions? Thoughts? Help!!!

Are there other places I should also be looking for the source of the problem?

I am having a hard time sneaking the plane in and out of the airport without people calling the fire and police about the airplane that is inevitably gonna crash with engine failure.
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Old 05-13-2009, 12:38 PM
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Are you talking about something more than the normal exhaust popping noise when the throttle is almost or fully closed?
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Old 05-13-2009, 01:04 PM
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This has been covered before.Try this link and see if this is what your talking about. If not you have a problem.
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Old 05-13-2009, 01:45 PM
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Default Hum....

Aerosport O-360-B1B, Lightspeed Ignition, Airflow Performance FI, Vetterman Crossover 4-into-2 exhaust.

I never cut to idle quickly. I start several miles out before pattern and just nudge it out or the popcorn machine will kick in. It will pop just on a taxi also unless I give it some throttle to quite it down.

Thanks for the replys. I had bought into the just live with it until my neighbor with the same engine claimed no noise from his plane. Could he be pulling my leg?

I will look into what he is using for an exaust system. I think this popping is excessive for my plane. I can look into mixture at idle also. Could changing the exaust system to another style fix the problem?
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Old 05-13-2009, 01:48 PM
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It will pop just on a taxi also unless I give it some throttle to quite it down.
This is certainly not the norm for RVs. I have never seen one pop while taxiing and mine doesn't do it (although it does in flight if cutting the throttle quickly). Sounds like you've got something else going on.
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Old 05-13-2009, 02:13 PM
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TOAD,

I replaced the seals around the intake tubes into the sump and mine stopped popping. I checked everything under the sun to no avail. When I replaced the intake tube seals, it became a different engine. Good luck.
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Old 05-14-2009, 07:49 AM
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Excessive lean mixture at idle can cause popping on the ground. To check for proper mixture slowly lean the mixture at idle and you should get a 50 to 75 RPM rise just before idle cut off. If you don't I suspect you are running lean and need to enrichen the idle setting. Is this Carb or injected?

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Old 05-14-2009, 09:34 AM
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Default This is a fuel injected engine

This is an injected engine. I am wondering if the AirFlow performance induction system is different from other injection systems or plays into the issue in some way.

Now that I am searching my memory I am convinced that the engine used to run much better and that things are getting worse. I will head out to the hangar as soon as I get home tonight to look into mixture and look for a leak on the induction side. I suspect the exhaust is as tight as it was on day one. All my efforts were directed to exhaust and I will switch to other areas because I do not see anything that looks significant there.
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Old 05-14-2009, 03:25 PM
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It sounds like you have already checked for leaks around the exhaust, but anywhere it can suck in air (exhaust to cylinder head, exhaust probe, a pin hole in a weld etc) will cause it to pop in the exhaust pipe.
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Old 05-14-2009, 03:25 PM
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Toad,
You might want to check the exhaust and intake bolts where they attach to the cylinders heads. The first couple hundred hours everything loosens up.
I had a blue streak(gas) leaking from the top of #3 intake. The gaskets were shot after 500 hrs.I check mine at annual and some need to be re-torqued.
Hope this helps.
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