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Old 03-19-2018, 06:42 PM
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Default Micro VG installation

Thinking of pulling the trigger on some micro VGs

https://microaero.com/ocs/?socs=rv-ocs.pdf

$400 and seems like cheap safety insurance.

Anyone have these installed? Pros/Cons?
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Old 03-19-2018, 06:54 PM
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I put them on my 7A and saw very little difference in stall speed. I would not do it again.
They were not a negative, only money spent that was a waste.
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Old 03-19-2018, 07:00 PM
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I dont know what the bugs are like down in FLA but I would not want to clean around VGs up here. A wipe down of the wings is a standard post flight routine here in the summer months. From the research ive Done I have not found them to be real noticeable, like on a skywagon, Maule or supercub...
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Old 03-19-2018, 07:13 PM
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Put on my Longeze, 8% decrease in stall, no change top end. Would do again, easy to install
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Old 03-19-2018, 07:18 PM
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If you want to lower your stall speed, sell the -7A and turn the cash into -9A.
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Old 03-19-2018, 07:21 PM
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Maybe I can just glue $20 bills on top of the wings instead...
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Old 03-19-2018, 07:47 PM
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The builder of my RV-8 installed VGs, tested, and decided to remove them. He then installed the wing root strakes (which are still installed).
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Old 03-19-2018, 10:55 PM
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You can make your own vortex generators and install them with double sticky carpet tape. I made 4 "Hall" type V-Gs and put them in front of the ailerons (2 ea) on my T-18. It had a profound effect on aileron control in stalls. They did not effect stall speed or top speed (that I could tell) but I didn't expect them to.
My RV-8 does not have V-Gs nor strakes. I did compete one season in IAC aerobatics, Sportsman Class. I don't see a need for them on the -8.
I don't see a down side, except washing the wing or snagging a finger.
VG's are fun to play with, then you can take them off and say "Been There Done That".
Might be a different story on a different aircraft type.
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Old 03-19-2018, 11:11 PM
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Default Rocket VG's

I have them on my Harmon Rocket, and like them. I bought the plane that way, so I can't tell you what a difference they made in that plane, but I can tell you that I can easily land the heavier shorter wing rocket shorter than the RV-4 I owned before it that didn't have the VG's.

The builder says that the VG's also dampen out the tail waggle that happens in turbulence, and the Rocket is more stable in yaw than the RV-4. Is it because of the VG's? Don't know, but I'm not taking them off.
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Old 03-20-2018, 10:27 AM
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Results seem to vary with aircraft, and especially installation location.
MicroAero does rather extensive testing for certified aircraft applications, here in the experimental world, it might take several positioning iterations to achieve meaningful results. I've got them on my Luscombe, where they reduced my indicated stall speed about 10%; reduced my approach speed accordingly.
Very popular on twins, where they reduce Vmc, and often allow a gross weight increase. Standard equipment, I believe, on the Piper M-series (Meridian/Mirage/Malibu).
I plan to install them on my RV-4 project.

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