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On Wednesday evening Rod Hightower, President of the EAA National, was in Charlotte and gave a presentation to EAA 309 and anyone else who wanted to drop in.
He said that in eight years everyone will be required to have a TSO'ed GPS and Mode S transponder with 'out' capability to comply with the ADSB requirement.
The current cost of compliance is around $15,000, he said. This is the cost of a GNS430 and 330 transponder, plus installation.
He went on to say that there is hope someone will develop a $4,500 unit so the changeover will be "affordable". Let's make that $5,000 with installation. So, the guy who bought is RV or worse yet, bought a $20K 152 is going to be required to pay 25% of the value of the aircraft just to keep flying. That is not a good deal.
After the meeting we were talking to Mr. Hightower at length about this issue and here is the real kicker about this requirement:
The ADSB 'out' will be required to transmit your point of origin, current position, and destination. All that is public record so anyone can track your comings and goings. While some might say that they can do that in Flightaware, that is true of you file a flight plane or use flight following, not if you are VFR. Personally, I don?t think the public has a right to know when I?m not at home.
The other gotcha is the requirement for the point of origin and destination. Apparently the FAA didn't consider anyone might take off, fly around, and land at their home airport. Mr. Hightower said the FAA has agreed to allow people to make both points the same, so that is good. It sounds like the FAA thought all pilots treat their planes like the airlines; take off and fly direct to their destination. It frightens me that the FAA is that disconnected from how GA pilots operate and I have a hard time believing that last part.
However, he didn?t have an answer for someone who takes off, goes to one airport, and then starts heading to airport #3 but diverts without plugging in the new destination into their GPS or simply flies around without a destination programmed into their GPS and lands at a bunch of different airports. Now you are flying around without the FAA (and TSA?) knowing what your intentions are and they aren't going to like that so much.
No one seems to have an answer for that last one, at least not that I could find.
Mr. Hightower did state that this requirement has been passed and is coming. The EAA and AOPA are working on extending the implementation date but that it is coming.
I did some research on ADSB and couldn?t find anything to disprove what I have written above. If any of you have such information, please post it.
I know this forum has strict rules about all things political but maybe it is time we start a grass roots letter writing campaign to our federal representatives.
(Please do not post any anti-FAA or government rants. This is intended to be an informative discussion.)
He said that in eight years everyone will be required to have a TSO'ed GPS and Mode S transponder with 'out' capability to comply with the ADSB requirement.
The current cost of compliance is around $15,000, he said. This is the cost of a GNS430 and 330 transponder, plus installation.
He went on to say that there is hope someone will develop a $4,500 unit so the changeover will be "affordable". Let's make that $5,000 with installation. So, the guy who bought is RV or worse yet, bought a $20K 152 is going to be required to pay 25% of the value of the aircraft just to keep flying. That is not a good deal.
After the meeting we were talking to Mr. Hightower at length about this issue and here is the real kicker about this requirement:
The ADSB 'out' will be required to transmit your point of origin, current position, and destination. All that is public record so anyone can track your comings and goings. While some might say that they can do that in Flightaware, that is true of you file a flight plane or use flight following, not if you are VFR. Personally, I don?t think the public has a right to know when I?m not at home.
The other gotcha is the requirement for the point of origin and destination. Apparently the FAA didn't consider anyone might take off, fly around, and land at their home airport. Mr. Hightower said the FAA has agreed to allow people to make both points the same, so that is good. It sounds like the FAA thought all pilots treat their planes like the airlines; take off and fly direct to their destination. It frightens me that the FAA is that disconnected from how GA pilots operate and I have a hard time believing that last part.
However, he didn?t have an answer for someone who takes off, goes to one airport, and then starts heading to airport #3 but diverts without plugging in the new destination into their GPS or simply flies around without a destination programmed into their GPS and lands at a bunch of different airports. Now you are flying around without the FAA (and TSA?) knowing what your intentions are and they aren't going to like that so much.
No one seems to have an answer for that last one, at least not that I could find.
Mr. Hightower did state that this requirement has been passed and is coming. The EAA and AOPA are working on extending the implementation date but that it is coming.
I did some research on ADSB and couldn?t find anything to disprove what I have written above. If any of you have such information, please post it.
I know this forum has strict rules about all things political but maybe it is time we start a grass roots letter writing campaign to our federal representatives.
(Please do not post any anti-FAA or government rants. This is intended to be an informative discussion.)