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Old 03-01-2017, 08:40 AM
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I can not say what is standard or typical, but I list all SB's that terminate with action by SB number and a statement that it was complied with along with any specifics as to how. This is typically done towards the back of the log book. Recurring inspections called out by an SB get listed again each time they are inspected and listed in the logs along with all the other "normal" stuff like compression, oil change, etc.... So, for me, they should get listed by SB number individually and a statement as to what was done and what was found or not found. I do this for Engine AD's etc.... as well.
Same here... and if I find an SB does not apply to my plane, I note that as well so no one has to wonder whether or not I checked it.
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Old 03-01-2017, 08:41 AM
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Same here... and if I find an SB does not apply to my plane, I note that as well so no one has to wonder whether or not I checked it.
Excellent point and I do this as well, for SB's that may or may not apply by model type.
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Old 03-01-2017, 08:50 AM
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On Feb-13 my wife flew me down to KWVI so we could look at an RV-9A for sale. The RV-12 we flew had been carefully inspected and there was no visual indication on the nose fork of any stress or cracking. The plane is in of a club of 5 people, 2 of whom were the builders. I did the wiring on it so we know this plane very well. She joined the group to have a nice cheap way to keep current and has really enjoyed it. RV-12s are magic.

Before we get a pile of replies: Yes we all knew about the SB. The plan was to replace with the new fork model at the next condition inspection.

She made a perfect landing, gently set the nose down, and taxied off uneventfully. But when we got to parking we had to make a fairly sharp turn that probably turned the nose wheel to the stop bolts. This was apparently the last straw for the nose fork and one side sheared at the weld. Fortunately, there was no prop strike and we didn't even realize it had failed until we shut down and got out.

Thanks to the fantastic builder community at KWVI for coming to our aid! Sayid and Bill quickly gathered tools, helped us get the nose wheel pant off, and assessed the problem - it was pretty obvious since the wheel was at a 30 degree angle and the fork was clearly broken at the weld.

Sayid knew of an RV-12 builder who was nearing completion and called Bob. Bob drove 20 miles to the airport to open his hanger, removed his already installed nose fork, and loaned it to us. Sayid and Bill helped us (actually we just helped them) to install and tension it and we were back on our way home just a few hours behind schedule. We removed, cleaned and UPS'ed the fork back to Bob the next day.

This is the first time we've experienced this wonderful side of the builder community in time of need and though I've been flying an RV-6 since 2007 I was just amazed and grateful to these folks. Thank you guys!
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Old 03-01-2017, 10:38 AM
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. The RV-12 we flew had been carefully inspected and there was no visual indication on the nose fork of any stress or cracking.
Before we get a pile of replies: Yes we all knew about the SB. The plan was to replace with the new fork model at the next condition inspection.
If I am a RV12 owner, knowing this, I wouldn't be waiting for visible signs of a crack to do the SB given your experience.

Good post and good stuff to know. I am sure RV12 owners appreciate it.

As we know, some SB's are the factory covering their you know what for a one time event, some are arguably "no action required", and some are more like an AD in that they should be immediately dealt with. It is tough to know which is which sometimes.
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Old 03-01-2017, 11:58 AM
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Thanks for all the replies everyone! Lots of great information. I wonder if Van's will cover the cost of the new fork since the original failed. With the added expense of the gear leg that was also damaged, parts alone are over $650.
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Old 03-01-2017, 12:05 PM
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... The RV-12 we flew had been carefully inspected and there was no visual indication on the nose fork of any stress or cracking.

... helped us get the nose wheel pant off...
That's one of the reasons I don't fly locally with the wheel fairings - they cover everything up. I can't see the brake pads, brake lines and, in particular in this case, the nose wheel fork, which I inspect as part of my normal preflight. I do use the wheel fairings when I take long cross country flights. They take maybe an hour to put on and less to take off.
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Old 03-01-2017, 12:51 PM
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I wonder if Van's will cover the cost of the new fork since the original failed. With the added expense of the gear leg that was also damaged, parts alone are over $650.
Sure! Like they covered the new plexi window I purchased to replaced cracked Lexan. Crack appeared shortly after mounting, no connection to screw holes or edge. I am thankful that they at least moved on to a better replacement.
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Old 03-02-2017, 10:46 AM
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Another downside of wheel pants is that if a tire goes flat on the mains you can't get the wheel pant off without first jacking up the plane because the plane will be resting on the wheel pant and the bottom screws will be inaccessible. In the case of a leaking Schrader valve it means you can't just replace the valve and charge the tire without a jack.
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Sure! Like they covered the new plexi window I purchased to replaced cracked Lexan. Crack appeared shortly after mounting, no connection to screw holes or edge. I am thankful that they at least moved on to a better replacement.
Another RV-12 on my field had a really tedious time with the factory replacement and no room for error on an expensive replacement part. He said the nature of this RV-12 fuel filler location is it will happen again even if you are very careful and it might be worth (if I heard it correctly) considering using the old glass to shape, form, and drill store-bought lexan (?)... Now knowing that's it is structural....I guess that's not the way to go. Sorry, I've never seen what I'm talking about and just know there are those of us that have had issues and I usually fall into the other category.....and their are those that will.
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Old 03-02-2017, 03:38 PM
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Does anyone know the weight of the replacement nose wheel fork?
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