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Old 04-29-2014, 01:07 PM
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John,

My read on 91.205 is that the minimum addition to fly the RV-12 under IFR would be an approved Nav system. Our portable Garmin units (old D180 planes) and Skyview don't seem to meet the FAA requirements to use GPS as our IFR navigation. I think the cheapest legal minimum would be an ADF or VOR. Aircraft Spruce has a VOR/GS unit with integral indicator for about $1800.

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Old 04-29-2014, 02:14 PM
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John,

My read on 91.205 is that the minimum addition to fly the RV-12 under IFR would be an approved Nav system. Our portable Garmin units (old D180 planes) and Skyview don't seem to meet the FAA requirements to use GPS as our IFR navigation. I think the cheapest legal minimum would be an ADF or VOR. Aircraft Spruce has a VOR/GS unit with integral indicator for about $1800.

Rich
No portable is approved for IFR use. A VOR would be the least expensive way.
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Sportys SP400 NAV/COM. 369$
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Old 04-29-2014, 07:11 PM
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Kyle,

I'm not sure about the legality of a handheld VOR receiver for IFR. I have an SP-400 and have flown both VOR and ILS approaches in VFR to evaluate it. The ILS was dead on but the VOR was not reliable beyond about 15 miles from the station. My conclusion is that it's a great backup if you can get to the IAF, but not reliable enough to depend on for enroute. Others may have had a different experience with it.

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I'm not sure about the legality of a handheld VOR receiver for IFR. I have an SP-400 and have flown both VOR and ILS approaches in VFR to evaluate it. The ILS was dead on but the VOR was not reliable beyond about 15 miles from the station. My conclusion is that it's a great backup if you can get to the IAF, but not reliable enough to depend on for enroute. Others may have had a different experience with it.

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Old 04-29-2014, 07:44 PM
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Kyle,

Like I said, others may have a different experience with the SP-400. If you buy one I recommend doing some airway tracking and approaches to determine your specific characteristics in your airplane.

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I finally got the answer on my operating limits from my DAR after his discussion with the MIDO. Everybody agrees the day VFR restriction does not apply in Phase 2 if equipped for night or IFR, but the MIDO says there is no revision required although they will make changes in future OLs to make the wording clear. I intend to carry a copy of the correspondence with my OLs if I equip for night and/or IFR.
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Keep in mind you must have a medical to operate with less than 3 miles visibility, or out of ground contact.
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Earlier versions of 8130.2 had miss-wording for paragraph 10. It has been corrected to read; "(10) During phase I flight testing this aircraft is to be operated under VFR day only."
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Keep in mind you must have a medical to operate with less than 3 miles visibility, or out of ground contact.
Or, at night, or above 10,000' altitude. Or any other condition not covered under Sport Pilot operations.
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