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Old 09-20-2015, 05:19 PM
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I thought non- equipped aircraft would merely be excluded from A,B,C airspace.
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Old 09-20-2015, 06:40 PM
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I thought non- equipped aircraft would merely be excluded from A,B,C airspace.
Actually ADS-B OUT will be required in any airspace that currently requires a transponder, like a Mode 3C vail etc.

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Old 09-20-2015, 07:15 PM
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The compliance date as of now is January 1 2020.
Without ADSB-out you are excluded from class B and the mode C veil around B, class C, and you must remain below 10,000' MSL (with an exception when within some height (2500' AGL??) of the terrain over the mountains).
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Old 09-20-2015, 07:34 PM
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The compliance date as of now is January 1 2020.
Without ADSB-out you are excluded from class B and the mode C veil around B, class C, and you must remain below 10,000' MSL (with an exception when within some height (2500' AGL??) of the terrain over the mountains).
Just over 4 years....thanks.
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Old 09-21-2015, 06:55 AM
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Just over 4 years....thanks.
Yep, long time, pretty much a CPU lifespan. Stratux, etc. for me for a while, outbound info can wait at least three years.
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Old 09-21-2015, 07:05 AM
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If your transponder is encoded for altitude you can do the Navworx with transmonspe
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Old 09-21-2015, 07:07 AM
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If seeing traffic now is important to you, then having the out part is required.
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Old 09-21-2015, 07:47 AM
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If seeing traffic now is important to you, then having the out part is required.
And if the transponder does not meet ADS-B out requirements the FAA sends a letter to cease and desist.
I have quiry in to Becker on this unit, seems to me it would work just fine below 15,000 feet.
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Old 09-21-2015, 08:50 AM
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The Becker you have is a class 2 unit (low power) which is not approved for ADS-B out (class 1 is required).
Walt,

Are you sure about this?

From Becker data sheet:

The BXP6401-2-(01) is a compact and lightweight single block Mode-S transponder. It is certified according to ETSO-2C112a and is suited for VFR and IFR operations up to 15.000 feet.
The transponder is equipped with extended squitter and SI code function and it provides an interface to the central aircraft data system. It allows ELS, supports EHS, as well as ADS-B via extended squitter.

I have FAA AC 20-165A (ADS-B Out requirements). There is no reference in this document titled class 1 or 2 transponders.

Seems to me Becker designed this unit for ops below 15,000 feet, including ADS-B. Why would it have an extended squitter if this were not true?
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Old 09-21-2015, 10:08 AM
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FAR 91.227:

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(2) Aircraft operating in airspace designated for ADS-B Out, but outside of Class A airspace, must have equipment installed that meets the antenna and output power requirements of either:

(i) Class A1, A1S, A2, A3, B1S, or B1 as defined in TSO-C166b; or
Per the Becker install manual, the transponder is a class B2. The higher power one is a class B1.
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