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Old 06-16-2013, 07:32 AM
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Default RTV

The "riviting the rudder" instructions call for a daub of RTV. Some web searching learns that this is a brand name silicone adhesive, not sold in my part of the world. Looking for a replacement can I use any silicone adhesive or should it particularly be a gasket sealant, or something else for that matter.

Can anybody advise please?

thanks Roger.
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Old 06-16-2013, 07:51 AM
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A silicon adhesive is fine. Just be sure that it is marked "safe for aluminum".
Many silicon adhesives contain acetic acid that contributes to corrosion.
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Old 06-16-2013, 09:01 AM
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Default Room Temperature Vulcanizing

I use a lot of Dow 736 (red) in the high temperature areas and Dow 732 (black) in other areas on my dark blue airplane. Comes in a tube with a seal in the end that has to be broken and has a separate plastic cone that can be cut to different lengths for controlling the size of the opening. It has very good adhesion and "rubber" qualities when cured (24hrs full cure - skins in minutes). Can be used to: stabilize wire routing through a hole in metal, make flow fillets, etc. When I am making gap seals on parts like strut cuffs that are going to be removed a lot and I don't need the strength of the expensive Dow products I buy some similar "rubber in a tube" from an auto parts store. Great stuff.

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Old 06-16-2013, 09:22 AM
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Default Look for "Sensor Safe"

If you go the an auto parts store and don't find a silicone sealant labeled "safe for aluminum", look for one labeled as "Sensor Safe". These are the one that don't have acetic acid in them.
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Old 06-16-2013, 10:48 AM
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The one I used was Permatex Ultra Blue, 81724 (77B). It's marked "sensor-safe RTV gasket maker."

The first auto-parts place I stopped at had it.

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Old 06-16-2013, 01:07 PM
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In the Netherlands and in Germany you could use Sicaflex-521 UV!
It is ok for aluminum.

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Old 06-16-2013, 04:53 PM
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Or good ole pro-seal.
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Old 01-31-2017, 12:22 PM
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Default RTV Substitute - UPDATE

Here in Argentina I've found a great substitute from SIKA. Is almost the same (or the same) as the Sikaflex 521 UV. It's called Sikabond AT-Metal, and made in Switzerland. It's a grey hybrid polyurethane silicone, non aggressive to aluminum.
I had some RTV left from a previous plane that I decided not to use because it has been opened last year.
Here are the pictures. Hope it helps.









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Originally Posted by Mel View Post
A silicon adhesive is fine. Just be sure that it is marked "safe for aluminum".
Many silicon adhesives contain acetic acid that contributes to corrosion.
Well, this is painting with too broad a brush really. Gotta do the homework. Dow 732 is acetic acid cure, but is used on AL airplanes, is MIL spec and Boeing compliant.

http://www.sealantengineering.com/ca...79/7905593.htm
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Old 08-28-2017, 12:33 PM
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Note that RTV is not a trade name it's a shortened description of "Room Temperature Vulcanizing" rubber.

Perhaps something got lost in the translation to EU languages?
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