Home > VansAirForceForums

- Donate yearly (please).
- Advertise in here!

- Today's Posts | Insert Pics

Old 11-08-2015, 01:53 PM
cderk cderk is offline
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Park Ridge, NJ
Posts: 295
Default My First Big Mistake

Long time listener... first time caller....

Started my RV10 build a week ago, and I think I made my first non-recoverable mistake. I had the vertical stabilizer cleco'd together and everything was going fine. I removed the skin for dimpling. While dimpling, the skin somehow moved as I was swinging my hammer and i wound up making a new hole, right next to the one that was supposed to be dimpled.

I'm thinking I need to call Van's tomorrow and order a new skin.

Anyone have any thoughts?

I cannot figure out how to attach photos here, so here is a link...

RV10 - #41673
N688CD Reserved
1980 Piper Archer II
2018 Dues Paid
Reply With Quote
Old 11-08-2015, 01:58 PM
Kyle Boatright Kyle Boatright is offline
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Atlanta, GA
Posts: 3,458

Very common mistake. Here are some solutions:

Any of these ideas will work. It just comes down to your preference.
Kyle Boatright
Atlanta, GA
2001 RV-6 N46KB
2019(?) RV-10
Reply With Quote
Old 11-08-2015, 02:03 PM
cderk cderk is offline
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Park Ridge, NJ
Posts: 295

Nice - thanks Kyle. I'll have to do a little more searching to see if I can find a photo of what it looks like finished. That would be awesome if I didn't need to get a new skin. I'm less worried about the money. The time lost and the down time waiting for the new part is what sucks.

Thanks again,
RV10 - #41673
N688CD Reserved
1980 Piper Archer II
2018 Dues Paid
Reply With Quote
Old 11-08-2015, 02:37 PM
plehrke's Avatar
plehrke plehrke is offline
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Defiance, MO
Posts: 1,431

Originally Posted by cderk View Post
Long time listener... first time caller....
You seem a bit more on the ball then the average caller . . . .
RV-6A - 12 years over 850 hours
Cessna 140 - 68 years over 3400 hours
Based at 1H0 (Creve Coeur)
Paid dues yearly since 2007
Reply With Quote
Old 11-08-2015, 03:17 PM
Palamedes's Avatar
Palamedes Palamedes is offline
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Blairsville, GA
Posts: 201

Nah.. easy fix.

Flatten the dimple you made and the new "surprise" hole/dimple.

Then above and below the hole that's supposed to be there along the rib drill new holes. Those will be the real holes that need to be dimpled and riveted.

Then just use a small rivet on the two mistake holes or use that bondo stuff to cover them..etc. No big deal.
Jason Ellis
RV-10 - Emp. Finished!
RV-10 - Wings Started 1/3/16
Blairsville, GA

RV-10 Build Log
Youtube Channel
Reply With Quote
Old 11-08-2015, 07:49 PM
MElstien MElstien is offline
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Kinnelon NJ
Posts: 112
Default Keep on building...

Hello Charlie,

This is unfortunate but common mistake. I am not qualified to provide feedback on a repair. What I can offer is, if you do decide to order a new skin, is to add the skin to my order for the RV-10 Wings which I will be ordering probably in the next 4 weeks. It should make shipping a non-problem.

I would also offer to have you try my DRDT-2. I have used both the C-Frame and DRDT-2 for dimpling and I think the DRDT-2 is a better tool, especially when working solo.

Congrats on starting. There will be mistakes that need correcting all along the way but there is goo news. This past week I rolled the forward edged of both elevators. After doing it on the rudder, the elevators were a piece of cake and came out really well. I have found that every time I do something the first time, it takes me longer than I thought but the second time it goes so much easier and the results are better.

Builders Blog
Northern NJ
RV-10 Builder
Tail Kit delivered 6-2013
Started building April 2014
Empennage completed
QB Wing and Fuse Delivered December 2015
Finishing QB wings on September 2018
Dues Paid through 2018
Reply With Quote
Old 11-08-2015, 08:33 PM
kdedmunds kdedmunds is offline
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Tallahassee, FL
Posts: 76
Default Plus one on the DRDT-2

I did the same thing dimpling the vertical stabilizer with the c-frame. Thought everything was going well till my 14 year old son said "Dad, you made a mistake". Got a hold of the DRDT and haven't looked back. You can squeeze rivets with it too. Complete game changer for me.
K Edmunds
Reply With Quote
Old 11-08-2015, 08:56 PM
cderk cderk is offline
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Park Ridge, NJ
Posts: 295

I thought about the DRDT... But someone said that the c frame works just as well and many folks prefer it. I don't know that having a different tool would have helped me... It was my stupidity... Not the tool that screwed up.

Oh well, live and learn. Thanks for the offer Michael, I think I'm going to try to get one this week. I realize that I can move on to the rudder, but I'm frustrated now and want to get it fixed asap.

I thought about this a lot tonight. If I'm going to be spending $150k when this is all said and done, I may as well do it right and just cough up the $100 or so and get a new skin. I have OCD, having two rivets next to each other would probably drive me bananas.
RV10 - #41673
N688CD Reserved
1980 Piper Archer II
2018 Dues Paid
Reply With Quote
Old 11-08-2015, 09:11 PM
Aero_Octaveus Aero_Octaveus is offline
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Edmonton, AB
Posts: 197
Default Welcome to the club

cderk...No worries. Welcome to the club. You will make many more mistakes I promise you. In fact...there maybe a point when you seriously question whether you should continue (I did). Take comfort that by the time you reach the wings, this will all be old hat. Keep plugging away and always look for help with the forums, the local EAA chapter, and the occasional email to Van's Support.

Hang in there.
Garet Hess - Edmonton, AB
RV-7A - Emp and Wings Done. Working on fuse
2018 Donation Current
Reply With Quote
Old 11-09-2015, 08:08 AM
Av8torTom's Avatar
Av8torTom Av8torTom is offline
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Yardley, PA
Posts: 1,222
Default Been there - done that

If I may suggest - when using the C-frame, hold the female dimple die down on the work (assuming the male die is on the bottom), then strike with your mallet. Much less chance of the work jumping and creating the unwanted hole.
RV-9A (empennage completed, both wings completed, fuselage and finish kit completed, engine hung, working on panel and wiring)
N677AT reserved
Superior XP O-320, 160HP
Picture log:
Reply With Quote

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 01:36 AM.

The VAFForums come to you courtesy Delta Romeo, LLC. By viewing and participating in them you agree to build your plane using standardized methods and practices and to fly it safely and in accordance with the laws governing the country you are located in.