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Old 09-28-2018, 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by BobTurner View Post
They must meet the performance requirements of the TSO, but do not actually need to have a TSO. And of course there are no requirements for landing lights.
Thanks for all your replies!

I am building the RV in Germany and talked to my examiner regarding the topic. He said to be able to get certified for night operations you need to have lights that are in compliance with JAR/CS 23. They don't need to be certified, but as I understand you have to show they comply. It's about angles and so on. I still have to finish reading the requirements.

Has anyone experience with the FlyLEDs in regards to get certified for night operations in the US?

Another question:
FlyLEDs allow you to put the landing lights into the wing tips or into the wings' leading edge. I'd think the leading edge position would be nicer so you have more light in front of you and not only on the sides. So I'd go with standard strobes in the wing tips and landing lights in the wing's leading edge. Any thoughts on that?


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Old 09-28-2018, 02:07 PM
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2nd question first: i think you are corrrct - a leading edge location allows you to put the light where you want it, and also allows for bigger lights. But for those of us whose wings are completed, installation in the tips is much easier.
1st question. Here in the US most of us have Operations Limitations that say that night flying is approved if equipped per the applicable FAR. Showing that your lights meet the FAA’s specifications is technically the owner’s responsibility, but many rely on the manufacturer’s statement that they are in compliance.
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Old 09-28-2018, 09:36 PM
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Hi Malte

I designed the Flyleds kit after reading a rather thorough analysis of a certified Whelen LED position/strobe light. I feel like I must have got my maths wrong after reading through it all, because every comment I get back from customers is "Man they are bright!".

The Euro regs CS 23.1387 to 1397 and 1401 are the same as the FAA regulations with regards to light output and angles.

I have a few customers from Germany, including a known flying RV7 at EDMY that I could put you in contact with.

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