Toobuilder
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Not to be fatalistic, but nomex is not going to help much when you are breathing toxic smoke.
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Fire Sleeving?
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skylor
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Flamable Cabin Materials
While I tend to agree in principle, I feel that it would be a real shame if a small heat source turned into a large, fatal fire because of poor choices in cabin materials. An example of this might be a small electrical heat source such as a bad seat heater circuit or cell-phone battery fire that may be somewhat manageable on it's own but spreads to a flammable seat and causes a larger more dangerous fire because we chose to use inappropriate materials in the cabin.
Skylor
While I tend to agree in principle, I feel that it would be a real shame if a small heat source turned into a large, fatal fire because of poor choices in cabin materials. An example of this might be a small electrical heat source such as a bad seat heater circuit or cell-phone battery fire that may be somewhat manageable on it's own but spreads to a flammable seat and causes a larger more dangerous fire because we chose to use inappropriate materials in the cabin.
Skylor
Valid points if you have seat heaters or you fly with your phone in your pocket.
Neither which apply to me (or anyone else I know).
Getting pretty far from fire-sleeved hoses. I'm just sayin'
Yea, especially if you include all the talk of firewall insulation, firewall heat valves, etc., but I guess those are at least closer (physically) to the fire sleeved hoses than seat cushions are......
Firewall
On my airplane, not an RV, I have 100% stainless on the firewall. Heat box, stainless shrouds for all the pass thru's, stainless bulkhead fittings for the fuel line and manifold pressure lines, etc.
Stainless belly panel behind the exhaust going back about 24", ceramic insulation behind the firewall and above the belly sheet metal.
I have had two small engine fires in twins, two exhaust failures in singles-no fire, and an engine disassembly in flight on a piston twin with oil and fuel all over the place. No fire.
As for smoke in the cockpit, there are throwaway smoke hoods and emergency O2 supplies that would get you on the ground safely if you act quickly. The airline style smoke hoods are readily available if you want to spend the money.
A lot of time sitting on a chute and the only time I was sure I would use it was in the event of a fire.
On my airplane, not an RV, I have 100% stainless on the firewall. Heat box, stainless shrouds for all the pass thru's, stainless bulkhead fittings for the fuel line and manifold pressure lines, etc.
Stainless belly panel behind the exhaust going back about 24", ceramic insulation behind the firewall and above the belly sheet metal.
I have had two small engine fires in twins, two exhaust failures in singles-no fire, and an engine disassembly in flight on a piston twin with oil and fuel all over the place. No fire.
As for smoke in the cockpit, there are throwaway smoke hoods and emergency O2 supplies that would get you on the ground safely if you act quickly. The airline style smoke hoods are readily available if you want to spend the money.
A lot of time sitting on a chute and the only time I was sure I would use it was in the event of a fire.
Guilty as charged Yer' Honor....
Well, guess I should go back to my cutoffs, T-Shirt, and flip flops. If I'm going to buy the farm, might as well be comfortable.
I like this.
Gary---you can buy the firesleeve and bands, AND the banding tool from Spruce and do it yourself, maybe find a buddy that has one, or send us the hoses and we'll do it for you.
Tom
Tom
Kyle Boatright
Well Known Member
You can also "band" the firesleeve with safety wire.
Looks like about $250 in cost. Consider it done.
