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Old 04-16-2018, 02:58 PM
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I checked my Numbers for W&B again. The problem is not the fully loaded Aircraft but the flight where there is only me (180lbs) in front of the spar and 20 USG+75lbs of baggage behind it. I also checked on a spreadsheet from the Internet...same result. For landing its getting better of course but takeoff is out of cg Limit.
If flying by myself, I put the heavy stuff in the passenger seat to keep things closer to CG. This should work for you in the -12 as well.
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Old 04-16-2018, 03:09 PM
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I checked my Numbers for W&B again. The problem is not the fully loaded Aircraft but the flight where there is only me (180lbs) in front of the spar and 20 USG+75lbs of baggage behind it. I also checked on a spreadsheet from the Internet...same result. For landing its getting better of course but takeoff is out of cg Limit.
If you wish to carry a full 75 lbs of baggage but are solo, you can strap a heavier portion of your baggage into the front passenger seat with the 5 point harness
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Old 04-16-2018, 03:13 PM
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I was at Sun-n-Fun this past week and spent a lot of time checking out the new Vans RV-12is and asking lots of questions. One thing that I noticed on the new RV-12is is that the opening to the cargo area (between the top of the fuel tank and the roll bar) is a little tight - seemed like it was about one foot tall (0.3 meters) or so, if I remember correctly.
If you tilt the seat backs forward (easy to do) there is vertical clearance of 18" (it is actually closer to 20" but if you account for the cabin light and the latch block for the canopy latch, it is a totally clear space of 18")
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Old 08-16-2018, 01:41 PM
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After getting so many replies before. I want to keep you up to date.
Back from OSH I'm as far as before concerning my decision.
At first, I've spent a lot of time browsing through the homebuilt area and the guys of VANS have been very friendly and show a lot of patience.
I was lucky to get a demo flight in the 7 and it was - of course - great. To remember, I was pretty sure to decide between 12 and 9, but after flying the 7 and sitting in the 14 I was completely lost

I loved the space and the look of the 14, the efficiency and comfortable cockpit of the 12 with a great visibility, the performance of the 7 with 200hp. I have read so many times about "Defining the mission" and there is nothing more difficult than this. On the one hand, there are the things you do right know and on the other which you'd like to do. I was a little disappointed about the visibility and seating position in the 7+9. There is a big difference compared to the newer models.

I was pretty sure to return home and be sure which airplane to build after having seen all the kits in real life...

But it was nevertheless a great trip!
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Old 08-16-2018, 02:39 PM
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Simon,

Sorry you missed the Europa forum at Oshkosh. There were about 20 of us you could have chatted with. With the weather, only one managed to fly in.

The LAA rally starts Friday August 31. It is at Sywell UK. There will be Europa Club display and several Europas for you to see. There will also be RVs in attendance.

If you PM me, I can tell you about our Europa.

Let me know if I can be of assistance.

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Old 08-16-2018, 05:41 PM
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One of the problems with LSAs is that if they can fly slow enough to meet LSA requirements, their ability to handle crosswinds may be compromised and the ride in turbulence can be harsh. I see some of the latter in my RV-9A.
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