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Old 06-20-2018, 02:10 PM
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During my transition training we always landed at 85 Kts
Hopefully this wasn't training you paid a professional transition training instructor for
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Old 06-20-2018, 02:34 PM
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During my transition training we always landed at 85 Kts
85 Kts? Yikes, That's almost 100 mph, in an RV-12 yet. I approach at around 60 Kts. in my -6.
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Old 06-20-2018, 02:54 PM
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85 Kts? Yikes, That's almost 100 mph, in an RV-12 yet. I approach at around 60 Kts. in my -6.
I think he is talking about his Lancair 235. He doesn't have an RV, if I'm not mistaken.
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Old 06-20-2018, 03:12 PM
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I think he is talking about his Lancair 235. He doesn't have an RV, if I'm not mistaken.
Sorry, I was looking at his profile which lists "RV of interest" is 12. AND, it's on the RV-12 forum.
Regardless, If one floats for 4000', that's a "go-around" as far as I'm concerned.
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Sorry, I was looking at his profile which lists "RV of interest" is 12.
Regardless, If one floats for 4000', that's a "go-around" as far as I'm concerned.
Awww come on Mel...that is nap of earth flying..practice for chasing cattle or straffing canoe’ers floating the Calorado.
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Old 06-20-2018, 09:46 PM
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Having recently completed the first flight in our aircraft, I can say with certainty that having a qualified flight instructor in the seat beside me took a huge load off my mind. I flew that first flight, with zero time on type but with very good currency on other, more demanding types.

The flight instructor was a local fellow who had experience in a fairly broad range of aircraft, including amateur-built aircraft. The pre-flight briefing stage was one which added huge value, having another set of knowledgeable eyes looking over the plan for the first flight, ensuring the limits set for the flight were within reason, that the "escape" plans were reasonable and well adapted to the local area, including the alternate fields for forced landings. In short, before we strapped into the airplane we had both done our best to find some reason not to go fly, some way to improve the odds of success. Doing this alone would really not be even half as useful as doing it with somebody with knowledge and experience.

During the first flight it was a big step down in stress levels to have another set of eyes watching the engine while I could concentrate solely on flying the airplane, then having an experienced stick confirm my assessment of controlability.

Our first flight was a non-event, perfectly boring, other than the massive grin that came from an airplane that flew beautifully. Even the first landing was pretty good.

(For those concerned about regulatory matters, Canadian regulations and specifically the limitations placed on amateur-built aircraft for the first 25 hours permit flying with an instructor.)
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Mel, with 8000 Ft of runway it would get you back faster to save Hobbs time on the rental!😝
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Old 06-21-2018, 10:02 AM
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Things may have changed, but - -

20 years ago Mike Seegar was teaching 90mph IAS over the fence to newbies until they felt more comfortable landing the RV-6A. So, call it 80 knots, for what it's worth. It floats a bit at that speed.
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Old 06-21-2018, 10:21 AM
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Things may have changed, but - -

20 years ago Mike Seegar was teaching 90mph IAS over the fence to newbies until they felt more comfortable landing the RV-6A. So, call it 80 knots, for what it's worth. It floats a bit at that speed.
This post and discussion is in the RV-12 forum. Because of that I assume the RV-12 would be the context of the discussion. (and hopefully it is obvious that for an RV-12, 85 Kts is about 35 Kts too fast)

If not, then maybe this is a good reminder for people popping around in the forums to keep in mind that not everything applies to every RV so looking at what sub-forum the post is in might be helpful.
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Old 06-21-2018, 06:40 PM
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Scott,

You are absolutely right and I apologize for any confusion my post may have added.

Points out the hazards of hopping up and down from the desk all day long at work, with the VAF open in the background... loss of situational awareness
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