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Old 02-08-2018, 04:06 PM
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Radon is a crock. Completely and utterly a made up industry to suck money from people with a little knowledge but no understanding. Like a Hallmark holiday.

Radon gives off alpha particles. They are huge and dont penetrate the skin. Ever. And they dont even travel more than a few inches before quitting. You'll get way more cancer from standing outside on a sunny day than you ever will from Radon.

Look at the progeny and do some homework: http://www.ccnr.org/radon_chart.html

There are no studies that say its unsafe, just a bunch of might be's. Life is full wolf criers and this is one of them. Its like the BS about vaccines being bad because of lead. Hello? The lead is chemically tied up, not free floating.

Anyway, the benefit you are getting is from ventilating your sub floor/home, not because of radon, but because of all the low level outgassing toxics that are in your drywall, carpeting, flooring, decking particles, paint, plastics etc. None of these were an issue until we closed up our homes to make them "heat efficient". Thats the booboo. Your house needs air exchange. You need air exchange. Open your windows up occasionally and let the fresh air in. And that especially means in the winter. Unless you live in Bejing, but thats another issue.
You certainly might be right about the whole thing being a crock. But, alpha particles, while harmlessly not penetrating skin, are believed to be problematic when emitted directly against lung tissue after being inhaled.
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You certainly might be right about the whole thing being a crock. But, alpha particles, while harmlessly not penetrating skin, are believed to be problematic when emitted directly against lung tissue after being inhaled.


Yup, just ask this guy if alphas are bad for you:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poison...der_Litvinenko


This isn't affirming the radon hazard discussion, just pointing out the incorrect statements from maniago.

Fun fact, you're probably going to get more dose at flight levels than breathing radon for 5 hours (or most areas of a nuke plant). Food for thought.
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Look at the progeny and do some homework: http://www.ccnr.org/radon_chart.html
I may just be completely ignorant, but after doing so I'm more inclined to remediate radon in the house if the levels are elevated. I really have virtually no formal education in chemistry, but some of those (like Polonium-210, for example) look pretty much like things I would not want accumulating in the house or workshop.
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Accumulation in basements (and tightly insulated houses) wouldn't be hazardous if no one breathed in the radon (an "inert" gas like helium, neon, argon, etc.). Alpha decay in close proximity to lung tissues (or the digestive tract in the case of Mr. Litvinenko) by alpha emitters is best avoided as much as reasonably possible, IMHO.

(My 2 cents as a Piled high and Deeper physical chemist, but not a health physicist. )
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Old 02-16-2018, 05:07 PM
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Default Radon- more to the story...

Just to throw another log on the fire, I recently found this info.
http://www.forensic-applications.com....html#Charcoal
Itís very interesting and worth a read. Seems the EPA has screwed up the entire radon safety issue.
Iím personally in the less is better camp when it comes to ionizing radiation,even to the point of refusing dental X Rays. I have a self installed radon mitigation system (sub slab depressurization system through the sump pits) but if I had read this earlier I may have not bothered.
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Got my results back via email today. I used a a short term test, left it for three days with the basement mostly closed up since that's how we normally keep it. 3.1 pCi/L. Is radon is the devil incarnate or nothing to worry about? I still don't know. I'm --> <-- this much less worried about it now though.
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With the radon mitigation installation complete and operable, I tested the shop again and got results back today. It's down to 1.2, a very clear improvement.

And additionally, the place has a cleaner, fresher smell.

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Old 03-02-2018, 09:57 PM
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These threads as to whether radon is bad for you reminds me of the continued debate of the hazzards of smoking. I think the real debate with Radon is what is an acceptable level. The fact is, there are some areas with extremely high levels and some with low. My neighborhood is extremely high at 5 times the debated recommended level. For $300 I put in my own mitigation system that effectively lowered the levels in my home to 25% of recomended level. Did I succumb to some scam so I would buy a fan and ventilate my home? Who cares, I sleep better knowing I may have extended my family's health and my basement is much dryer and more comfortable.

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These threads as to whether radon is bad for you reminds me of the continued debate of the hazzards of smoking. I think the real debate with Radon is what is an acceptable level. The fact is, there are some areas with extremely high levels and some with low. My neighborhood is extremely high at 5 times the debated recommended level. For $300 I put in my own mitigation system that effectively lowered the levels in my home to 25% of recomended level. Did I succumb to some scam so I would buy a fan and ventilate my home? Who cares, I sleep better knowing I may have extended my family's health and my basement is much dryer and more comfortable.

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Old 03-20-2018, 12:39 PM
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Im a realtor and I had a couple of home inspectors tell me that radon cannot pass through water, so itís concentration is highest around the edges of lakes and ponds. Thatís where it has to escape.
We get a lot here from the bed rock as well.

Might make sens e to NoT pump that water under the concrete slab out with the sump pump in gh basement if itís wet.

If you have a negative pressure system, In your house pulling vac under the slab, be sure if you develop cracks in the slab they get caulked (I use marine 5200) because the smallest cracks can negate the system.
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