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Old 08-15-2019, 10:30 AM
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In addition, we have the "Terrestrial ADS-B Network", enthusiasts (apparently with boring lives) who set up receivers and feed the data to Flightaware.

https://flightaware.com/about/datasources/

They will send you a receiver, free, if they determine there isn't enough coverage in your area. There are something like 16 of them already in my area. And yes, they now have UAT filters available.

https://flightaware.com/adsb/flightfeeder/

Anyway, the real issue here is future surveillance, not who logs your ICAO now. As Flightaware is demonstrating, the technology to log you from that first data burst is readily available. and coverage is growing.
A guy I worked with was one of these early adopters of the FA offering. A normally well reasoned, highly intelligent individual, he quickly got sucked into the conspiracy theory vortex. Every morning he would tell me he uncovered a new "pattern" of covert ops involving aircraft going to/from LAX and the many millitary installations around here. He's retired now, but I'd bet he's spending his days logging every tail number he can sniff out.

Combine this behavior with the "chemtrails" and flat Earth types and you can bet that someone somewhere is watching you with one hand on the speed dial to the feds.
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Why is flying not a right? I think the word matters. A lot. Have had this talk with AOPA on several occasions and coincidentally I've noticed a shift in their terminology over the last few years. Maybe others have had similar conversations.
If only. I wish I was wrong. I chose the word on purpose because i meant it. In my 50 years in aviation, I have seen zero to change that status. There are many reasons to say it is a privelege. Licence requirements, registration requirements, ability of the government to curtail all execution of activity as needed. Same are driving and that word was pounded into us in training.

From the silly standpoint, one can jump without oversight but low altitudes are unrewarding and high ones are a single trip.
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A guy I worked with was one of these early adopters of the FA offering. A normally well reasoned, highly intelligent individual, he quickly got sucked into the conspiracy theory vortex. Every morning he would tell me he uncovered a new "pattern" of covert ops involving aircraft going to/from LAX and the many millitary installations around here. He's retired now, but I'd bet he's spending his days logging every tail number he can sniff out.

Combine this behavior with the "chemtrails" and flat Earth types and you can bet that someone somewhere is watching you with one hand on the speed dial to the feds.

Good story Michael. I personally know a guy like that. Maybe it's the same one
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Good story Michael. I personally know a guy like that. Maybe it's the same one
I hope it is the same guy. I hate to think there is more than one.
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I fail to see the case for a James Bond flipping license plate for ADSB. Flying is a priveledge just like driving. We have an ID plastered on the rear of our car and on the side of our plane.
But your car isn't constantly broadcasting its position and identification in the clear to anyone with a receiver, nor is it able to be tracked real-time and cross-referenced to your home address by any fool with an internet connection.

I just want cars and airplanes held to the same standard, whatever that standard is.
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Set aside the societal debate, and possible 1090 revisions. At the fundamental level, consider the ordinary consumer issue. Garmin advertised the GDL-82 as having an anonymous function, not "Anonymous after it broadcasts your ID at startup".
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But your car isn't constantly broadcasting its position and identification in the clear to anyone with a receiver, nor is it able to be tracked real-time and cross-referenced to your home address by any fool with an internet connection.
Give it time. Google already tracks car movements for traffic monitoring purposes, using the phones everyone carries with them. Dash cam popularity is growing, as is the availability of in-car internet availability. Won't be long before people marry the two and you'll have live video available from a percentage of the driving public. Add license-plate recognition software, and bingo... Cars now tracked live online with video.
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