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Lord Mounts J9613-40 versus J9613-49

rvator51

rvator51

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Does anyone know if the -40 lord mounts are the same thickness as the -49. I need to replace mine and there are some good deals on ebay for new -49 lord mounts. Seems most people use the -40 but some are using the -49. I want to make sure they are the same thickness or I will have problems with gap at front of cowling.
 
The rubber biscuits are the same size and I believe the center spacer is the same length. But they are of different resiliency. As I recall, the -49?s were typically used on 320/360 engines in Cessna installations and the -40's were used on Piper aircraft with the same engine models.
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Mahlon
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The Lord 9613-40 and -49 only differ by one of the sandwich elements. The spacer has an identical part number so the mounting dimension will be identical.

It seems the old Lord corp. documents were much more informative -

http://www.n2999c.com/N2999C-info/aircraft/Skyranch_Information/enginemount_lord.pdf

The part number data is on page 34 for the three parts that make up the assembly.

It's a pity that this on-line copy does not clearly reproduce all of the Lord installation drawings...:(
 
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az_gila said:
Yep... I found that, and also noticed it does not cover the 9613 parts...:(

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Gil,
I noticed that too. The closest listing is for 9612. The document's first sentence warns:

Where a component maintenance manual is available for a system, its requirements take precedence.


It does outline how these mounts tend to distend over time.

Charlie
 
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Thanks everyone for their help! Looks like the -49 will work ok then for the RV as a replacement for the -40 at a lot cheaper cost.
 
Which is best for vibration? has the least deflection under load? I see one has a steel spacer the other has a rubber football ...... Did I just answer my own question!:confused:
 
rhill said:
Which is best for vibration? has the least deflection under load? I see one has a steel spacer the other has a rubber football ...... Did I just answer my own question!:confused:
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NO, both of the parts use the same spacer part number J-12334-1

See page 34 of the above link.

The only difference is one of the rubber blocks.

Reading the hard-to-read installation drawings at the link, it seems like the 9613-40 mount is softer than the 9613-49 since it has more downward deflection at 1 g with take-off torque.
 
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I have the per-the-plans VIP mounts 50901-73 and 50900-71. Prints call out alternates J-7763-10 as the harder durometer piece and J-9612-8 as the softer larger piece

Are the subject Lord J9613-40 and 49 the same diameter and dimensions?

The VIP are probably circa 2003 and 700 hours, I swapped bottoms to tops 2 seasons ago. They did not sag much, the extra washer realigned the spinner to cowl and that has not changed- but, it's time for the Lords.

I asked Ryan at Herber for a quote, assuming they are the right diameter for the type 1 O320-E2D. It's a 9:1 engine and I played all the clocking with the FP 70CM prop.

Will I keep the extra washers with new Lords or do they not sag after 50 hours?

Thanks! ETA- Ryan says -40s are $148 ea @Herber today.
 
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