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Old 08-21-2011, 10:27 AM
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Real quick, but me personally don't find anything appetizing about the RV-11 concept.....

sorry if this has been posted already but whats everyones input?
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Old 08-21-2011, 03:58 PM
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You probably haven't yet had the chance to experience a wide variety of aviation Ian - when you get the opportunity, give soaring a chance! You might be surprised how fun, interesting, and challenging it can be.

The RV-11 idea takes that a step further by making the sailplane a motorglider - now you don't need to arrange for a tow to get aloft - relaxing flying whenever you want, much of it on ZERO gallons per hour.

Don't knock it until you've tried it.

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Old 08-21-2011, 04:17 PM
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Ian, soaring is incredible and waaay more fun than flying powered airplanes. I soloed a 232 Schweitzer a long time ago and often came back for more. The challenge of finding lift to stay airborne is something throttle-pushers don't think about...it's sooo easy.

The problem with gliding/soaring is that it's labor intensive...a tow pilot, a wing walker until the ailerons are effective and you. You can't go soaring alone, until someone invented a self-launching sailplane...which Van is working on. He's also a competitive glider pilot, participating in many contests, so that should tell you something.

As Paul said, "Try it before you knock it."...

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Old 08-21-2011, 04:33 PM
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Default I suspect it will not be offered for sale

Unless this is an educational exercise I would not spend a lot of deep thought on this one. I have followed the progress with interest from when Van first told about it in the old RVator (sigh). It has market potential and I believe it would sell to some experienced RV builder's but I expect this to go the way of the RV-1,-2, and -5.

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Old 08-21-2011, 07:42 PM
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Its a very interesting concept and idea, and more power to the people who wanna give it a shot. Im not trying to knock it, just gave my opinion take it or leave it and I was wondering your guy's!

Thank yah for the input!
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Surely Van and the team has considered high aspect ratio wings to plug into the RV12. It is nderstood that it would NOT be a great glider. It would be a fun plane to take advantage of coring lift.
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Surely Van and the team has considered high aspect ratio wings to plug into the RV12. It is nderstood that it would NOT be a great glider. It would be a fun plane to take advantage of coring lift.
Now that is a great idea. A dual set of wings! Add a full feathering prop (not an issue at all, Woodcomp makes them now for the 912) and you have a self launch motor glider.

If I remember right I was able to get a 13 -1 glide ratio in the -12 (sop meter) in it's current config. With a feathering prop and 40' wings... who knows? 25 to 1? Might need to add a speed brake.
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Old 01-30-2012, 06:31 AM
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Default RV11 I would build one

If Vans ever offers a box full of parts and a set of plans, I would build one.
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Surely Van and the team has considered high aspect ratio wings to plug into the RV12. It is nderstood that it would NOT be a great glider. It would be a fun plane to take advantage of coring lift.
I would think it would be a possibility. The RV-12 is, in many respects, an aluminum Europa with a turbulent airfoil. The Europa has a set of plug and play motor-glider wings; so it would be a good one to look at to get an idea of how successful the endeavor would be.
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Old 01-30-2012, 08:19 AM
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Default Now that's a good idea!

Yep...a plug-'n-play set of aftermarket carbon wings! The -12 would be an ideal candidate because of the similarity of wing removal to many gliders..overlapping spars with pins...great idea! A 45' wingspan -12 with a 30:1 glide ratio, or better.

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