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Old 01-11-2018, 05:00 PM
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Default Gascolator or not

In process of installing O-320 in place of failed Subaru engine on our RV-7. The old set-up had low pressure and high pressure in-line fuel filters.
With the Lycoming, and the typical Vans fuel line arrangement a gascolator is supposed to provide some protection against fuel contamination.
The recommended mounting location is not the low point in the fuel system, for a resting tail dragger, so it probably doesn't work for water trapping. Also on the firewall at the bottom of the cowl seems like a really impossible place for access to drain the gascolator.
Any thoughts on the merits or requirement for a gascolator most appreciated.
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Old 01-12-2018, 01:03 PM
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If I were to do it again, I would opt for the filter route.

I have a gascolator, but you are right its nearly inaccessible on the firewall.

A pair of filters in front of the spar in the tank fuel legs might be a possibility.

But maintenance is difficult there during annuals and is messy.

I think I would use a single filter under the cowl somewhere. Just make sure filter has a bypass option.

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Old 01-12-2018, 02:45 PM
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Some builders have put a filter in each wing root. That provides redundancy (as long as you don't run a tank dry!!!! ) and won't leak fuel in the cabin during maintenance.
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Old 01-12-2018, 03:59 PM
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If you put the filter on the firewall, it will be forward of the electric fuel pump and won’t provide any protection for it or the fuel valve for FOD in the tanks.
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Old 01-12-2018, 04:09 PM
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Gascolator for carb, filter for fuel injection.

Water can stop flow through a carb jet, which operates on a low pressure delta. With FI it just blows on through.

The typical gascolator is both filter and water sump. It does not need to be at the system low point, and very often is not. A gascolator is its own low point.
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Old 01-12-2018, 08:44 PM
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I wouldn’t be happy about flying a plane without one.. I delivered a Cessna once that had water in the tanks, I rocked and rolled the wings, tail down, up and down, and sumped and sumped till it was gone. Every fuel stop still had water in the gascolator (less and less each time). I know that gascolator saved my bacon!
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Old 01-13-2018, 07:29 PM
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Default Gascolator Access ??

Not sure why access is a problem. Add the longer drain connection fitting on the bottom of the gascolator. If you put a dime size hole in he bottom of the cowl directly underneath the fitting, you can stick a piece of 3/8 or 1/2 inch tubing up through it. Let the drain go inside the tube and push up and open the drain. Catch it in a glass if you want to. It's easy, clean, and no issue. Put a 6 inch piece of tubing in the plane if you drain it every fueling.

I guess I'm just lucky, 580 hours and I have never found a thing in the screens.

Just as a reference point, I have 800 hours in Barons burning 32-36 gallons an hour and check the drains religiously. Never found any water ... ever. Most FBOs today do a really good job on filtering fuel.

Last data point....fuel systems are the root cause of a significant number of RV accidents. Vans does a really good job of designing a KISS system that just works. Following the plans closely will provide a very safe reliable system.

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Old 01-14-2018, 09:14 PM
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You might consider the Aerolab filter/gascolator which mounts in the belly.

http://www.flyboyaccessories.com/product-p/72rr02.htm
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