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Old 01-04-2018, 09:12 AM
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Gotcha. I think that answer makes sense, to the degree that any of it can. And it's good news, in the sense that I don't need to change my presentation, and now I can say why that statement is true with some degree of confidence.
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Old 01-04-2018, 03:17 PM
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I would think it falls under §21.181 “Duration”. Here §21.181 (3)(i) invalidates the airworthiness of an aircraft in the LSA category, if it no longer meets the definition of a light-sport aircraft. But this section is specific to Specials, not Experimental. The E-LSAs fall in this same section under §21.181 (4) with all the other experimental certificates. But “the failure to meet the LSA definition” is not included here.
I’m sure the experts are correct, maybe they can point us to the reg.
All Experimental and Light-Sport aircraft are issued a "SPECIAL" airworthiness certificate.

As has already been pointed out the 8130-7, SPECIAL AIRWORTHINESS CERTIFICATE, in block A states: "PURPOSE- OPERATING LIGHT-SPORT AIRCRAFT".
If the aircraft has been modified to longer meet the definition of "Light-Sport Aircraft" it no longer conforms to this "Purpose". And therefore the A/W certificate is invalid
Not sure how much proof you need.
Of course it depends on whether or not it is primed!
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Of course it depends on whether or not it is primed!
Only because you can't put the third wheel in the back.
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Old 01-04-2018, 09:18 PM
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But this section is specific to Specials, not Experimental.
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All Experimental and Light-Sport aircraft are issued a "SPECIAL" airworthiness certificate.

As has already been pointed out the 8130-7, SPECIAL AIRWORTHINESS CERTIFICATE, in block A states: "PURPOSE- OPERATING LIGHT-SPORT AIRCRAFT".
This graphic might help understand the different airworthiness categories, with a focus on the "Experimental" subclasses (hopefully, it's still current!).
But it illustrates Mel's point.

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Nice chart, Carl! It all seems so simple when you see it organized like that. Proof that a picture is worth a thousand words!
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Old 01-05-2018, 10:10 AM
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Nice chart, Carl! It all seems so simple when you see it organized like that. Proof that a picture is worth a thousand words!
Thanks, but I didn’t create it. It came from an FAA training course, IIRC.
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Thanks, but I didn’t create it. It came from an FAA training course, IIRC.
Boy....there are a lot of FAA guys who need to be educated on this cart....and how their regs apply to the “light sport category”!
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