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Old 05-02-2019, 10:46 AM
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Just another day at Vogon HQ, answering those pesky pilot questions.

Hopefully they will soften you up with cudgels first 😁
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Old 05-02-2019, 01:05 PM
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Don't forget about EAPIS as well...
Good point about eApis. And forgot about the 12" letters (we now have permanent large letters)
Laird - that link to the 2005 Cayman Islands trip sure brought back memories and it was nice to see those old pics of you and the gang. That was our first trip!
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Old 05-02-2019, 01:15 PM
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Laird - that link to the 2005 Cayman Islands trip sure brought back memories and it was nice to see those old pics of you and the gang. That was our first trip!
Brought back a lot of fun memories for me as well. Hope all is well.
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Old 05-02-2019, 02:07 PM
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Excellent question and I put that to the FAA. Here's their response:

Oh freddled gruntbuggly,
Thy micturations are to me
As plurdled gabbleblotchits on a lurgid bee.
Groop, I implore thee, my foonting turlingdromes,
And hooptiously drangle me with crinkly bindlewurdles,
Or I will rend thee in the gobberwarts
With my blurglecruncheon, see if I don't!

There... that's clear!
Excellent, I have been waiting almost thirty years for the answer to that question.
Now can you tell me if it is ok to make a long night cross country on an island without any lights on the airplane, not even a flashlight. Lets use Jamaica for an example, that may or may not be factual. does the FAA have jurisdiction over US pilots flying in Jamaica. If it was in fact Jamaica there was no regulatory agency in that long ago era. Rumor had it that Jamaica or wherever had not paid their bill to the UK for running the local equivalent of the FAA.
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Old 05-04-2019, 07:43 PM
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What if its a flight of two. Lead is instrument rated, wing is not?? And then there was the flight of four. Lead was instrument rated and equipped, the three wingmen were not.
Lead/wingman status is irrelevant. The aircraft PIC must be instrument rated so the answer is a huge NO.

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Now can you tell me if it is ok to make a long night cross country on an island without any lights on the airplane, not even a flashlight.
Night flying require lights so again the answer is a huge NO.

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Lets use Jamaica for an example, that may or may not be factual. does the FAA have jurisdiction over US pilots flying in Jamaica.
The answer to this is a huge YES. The FAA has legal jurisdiction over all US Citizens and US registered aircraft anywhere in the world.

IOW, proceed at your own risk but remember that "ignorance of the law is no excuse", especially if/when you get in trouble in a foreign country. Don't become the stereotypical "Ugly American".

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Old 05-04-2019, 10:01 PM
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I've done the flight from Marathon Key (probably a better choice for most people than Key West) to the Caymans. It's correct that you need to file IFR and for that you should be instrument rated, but someone commented that "you would be" flying VFR. I am here to say that isn't necessarily the case.

When you're flying that far over water, you're not going to be interested in flying low. You want options, or at least TIME, if things go wrong. Time to radio your position, time to analyze the situation, time to react, time to prepare. That requires altitude. Altitude requires climb, and climb as quickly as possible if you really want the best safety you can get.

On my flight to the island, I had to descend through clouds, but was mostly VFR for the whole trip there. A little climb through the clouds coming out of Marathon to get on top and fly over Cuba. I also had to fly part of the instrument approach into Grand Cayman.

On my return flight, I had to climb for a while, actually, through many build ups. It was a bumpy ride in the clouds, too, but we set up for best climb and headed up to get above everything. The clouds sometimes hang out fairly low over the Caribbean and Bahamas too.

Do yourself a favor...get the instrument rating. It's worth it if you're going to do extensive travels by air anyway.

Other than that, the flight was not extraordinarily expensive, or complicated. As mentioned in the thread, go the Jim's page, become a member at least for a year, and you can get a Cuban overflight permit plenty cheap. The worst part about the whole thing is the psychology you go through after you pass Cuba and are out of glide range, knowing that if you go down, it's going to be a LONG time that you may be floating waiting for help, IF they can find you, and that's IF you are able to extract yourself and family out of the plane. THAT's the hard part...not letting your mind get to you. It was literally the first time I ever actually wished we had a whole-plane parachute like a Cirrus. Other than for over-water, I really could care less about the chute, but it sure would be nice for water ditchings.
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