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Old 04-13-2017, 09:01 AM
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Default EnerSys PowerSafe SBS-J16 Battery 220CCA

Just bought the SBS-J16 (220 CCA) dry cell battery for my RV-8 to replace the failing PC680 Odyssey.

Anyone using the SBS-J16 battery? Please share your experience with it.

Is dry cell the same as AGM?

Here are the specs. I paid $168.00

Length 7 in.
Width 3 1/16 in.
Height 6 5/8 in.
Drycell Battery
12 Volt
16 Ah @ 10hr rate
220 CCA
520 Cranking Amps for 5 Seconds
28 Minute Reserve Capacity
Cycle life @ 77 F 400 at 100% DOD
-40 F to 140 F Temperature Range
1.75Vpc/77 F
Float Voltage 2.27 Vpc @ 77 F
FAA-PMA Approved

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Old 04-13-2017, 10:14 AM
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Just bought the SBS-J16 (220 CCA) dry cell battery for my RV-8 to replace the failing PC680 Odyssey.

Anyone using the SBS-J16 battery? Please share your experience with it.

Is dry cell the same as AGM?

Here are the specs. I paid $168.00

Length 7 in.
Width 3 1/16 in.
Height 6 5/8 in.
Drycell Battery
12 Volt
16 Ah @ 10hr rate
220 CCA
520 Cranking Amps for 5 Seconds
28 Minute Reserve Capacity
Cycle life @ 77° F 400 at 100% DOD
-40° F to 140° F Temperature Range
1.75Vpc/77° F
Float Voltage 2.27 Vpc @ 77° F
FAA-PMA Approved

Thanks,
If I recall what an Oyssey rep told me a few years ago, the PC680 (non-certified) and the SBS-J16 (certified) are essentially the same except that the case for the SBS-J16 has a steel reinforcing band in it.

The info above indicating that the SBS-J16 is a dry cell is incorrect since it is really a recombinant gas sealed lead acid battery. The term "dry cell" is often used for this type of battery, but is technically wrong.

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Old 04-21-2017, 06:44 AM
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Thursday, April 20th, 2017, I installed the new EnerSys SBS-J16 (220 CCA) dry cell battery in my RV-8 to replace the failing PC680 Odyssey. The SBS-J16 showed 13.09 volts going in. The new battery cranks the SkyTec lightweight starter nicely.

Thanks for the comments Skylor. The two batteries look identical except for the color of the case, orange (J16) vs black (PC680). The SBS-J16 claims 220 CCA whereas the PC680 indicates 170 CCA.

Time will tell.
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Old 12-16-2017, 05:36 PM
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Has time told anything yet?
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Old 12-16-2017, 09:59 PM
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Still working great. It gets cold at night in NorCal and after two weeks off it was 12.6 volts on cool (36 F) morning. Cranked the B&C starter as expected.
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Old 12-17-2017, 09:14 AM
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They are not quite the same. From an EnerSys application engineer...

The main difference between the two is that the Odyssey will have an alloy additive to help with deep discharge recovery i.e. someone leaves the interior vehicle light on and discharges it very deeply. The SBS J16 may not recover well from an extremely deep discharge, but will have a lower self-discharge rate (longer shelf life), longer overall service life, and some other benefits.
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Old 12-17-2017, 09:26 AM
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I replaced my PC680 with the SBS J16 about 8 months ago and it contunues to work beautifully. Of course I never had any problem with the PC680's but decided to spring for the PMA'd SBS last time for just a few extra dollars.
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Old 12-18-2017, 07:36 PM
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I've had one in my Cessna 170 for a little over 3 years. It cranks over my O360 Lycoming (B&C starter) just fine. If it's cold, which around here is 5-10 degF, and I haven't extensively preheated, it can crank pretty slow. But it always turns over and has not yet failed to start the airplane.

Keep in mind that the 2C (or is it C2..can't remember) rating on this battery is not that long. They have plenty of amps for starting, but not a ton of endurance. As modern RV's are typically electrical airplanes (ignitions, flight instruments, flaps, etc...) this is something to keep in mind. If you fly a lot at night or IFR, do the math and make sure you are comfortable with the result.

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Old 01-21-2018, 11:27 AM
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The PC 680 never really did it for my 0360 ...always seemed to struggle when first start of the day. Skytec NL and new cables and solenoids.
Probably try the EarthX but the price is pretty high.
Weight is not a priority for me since it helps up front for balance.
Seriously considering the SBS-J16 if it will crank stronger.
Comments appreciated...
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