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Old 08-13-2019, 06:43 PM
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Go Paddy!!! Super excited for you and your family!
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Old 08-13-2019, 08:18 PM
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I just finished two north atlantic crossings following approximately your route. I learned a ton and would be happy to pass it along if you want to PM me.
Any interest in posting here publicly as Im sure there are lots of us that would be interested in the information that you gathered?
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Old 08-14-2019, 01:51 AM
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Any interest in posting here publicly as I’m sure there are lots of us that would be interested in the information that you gathered?
I suppose. Off the cuff...

1. Everything takes longer and costs more outside the US. Plan accordingly and take local currency for the places you'll stop.
2. Every airport in Greenland is closed on Sundays, before 8AM and after 5PM...sort of. For a hefty fee you can "reopen" the airport and land or takeoff. And on odd national holidays like spring solstice. However, even if three planes have already paid to reopen the airport and do their thing, you still get to pay the fee. Yeah, don't get me started. If I do it again in a DC3 I'll put in ferry tanks and overfly Greenland.
3. Not every airport in those parts have 100LL. Even if they say they do a gaggle of DC3s may have just come through and had every drop. Call ahead and reserve your gas. It will probably take longer than you are used to to fill up.
4. Take a dry suit or immersion suit and know how to use it. Ditto a raft. Ditto a satellite tracker.
5. Take a high visibility vest. Many of the airports you're going to require you to have one to be on the ramp unescorted.
6. Weather can be bad. Plan to be happy on the ground waiting for it to clear and be ready to go. Depending on the time of year you could be there a while.
7. Learn all the alternate airports, even if they are gravel strips. There aren't that many of them but one of them could save your life.
8. Learn the procedures for ATC where you'll be. Especially for the atlantic crossing portions.
9. Be sure to have your customs forms filled out for Iceland. Greenland doesn't even bother with customs. Nobody has passport stamps anymore unless you ask real nice in Iceland.
10. Contact Hermann (SuperCubDriver) who just did it in his RV EIGT.

There are probably more but it's late. Others can chime in who have more experience than me. I'd like to know how it goes. I've given thought to doing it in my RV-10 now that I know the drill. It's a great way to get around Europe I'll tell you that.
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Old 08-14-2019, 07:44 AM
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Thanks for that info Bryan. I heard that you and your DC3 buddies used up the last of the avgas at Iqaluit when you passed thru! They've had their annual restocking since then thankfully :-)
I’ll add a couple of interesting things I’ve learned specifically about doing the route in a US registered experimental. First, as Mark Albery already mentioned, prior authorization is required to land or overfly Greenland. I just received this last week and will be billed a hefty fee for the privilege. The latest AIP for Iceland also now indicates permission is required. I got this on Monday and had to pay up front before issuing the authorization. About $230 via credit card.
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Old 08-14-2019, 07:52 AM
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I have a G3X and a GTN650 in my plane. The databases for North America and Europe can both be installed on the GTN card but I need to carry a separate set of cards for the G3X for Europe and will need to switch them over when I leave Canada.
The ForeFlight Europe subscription doesnt include Ireland but it does include Iceland. I had to mix and match different subscriptions to get the coverage I need. This was expensive...
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Old 08-14-2019, 08:11 AM
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I saw that many of the ferry pilots used the neoprene immersion suits just pulled up to the waist in the cockpit with the intention of donning the rest of it before ditching if necessary. I had bought one of these and felt good about it until I tried it in the plane. It was a real struggle to get it zipped up all the way while sitting. I talked to Hermann and he used a dry suit with good insulation underneath. This is what the coastguard pilots use as well, specifically the Mustang Survival MSF300 flight suit. Its a nomex flight suit bonded to a dry suit underneath. Feet have integrated dry socks and the neck and wrists have seals. It comes with a neoprene hood and inflatable mittens that are donned after ditching. Of course these things cost as much as a small car but I found one on eBay for a couple hundred bucks. Checked it has no leaks - all good.
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Old 08-14-2019, 08:31 AM
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I was waiting for your post and see you are well prepared and ready to go. This will be an experience you wont forget.
Keep us updated!
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Old 08-14-2019, 11:28 AM
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Thanks for all the information and encouragement Hermann. I'll be listening on freq over Greenland!
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Old 08-19-2019, 07:12 PM
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Safe travels Jim. When you see EIRE on a cliff slope you know you have arrived!
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Old 08-23-2019, 07:51 AM
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I leave tomorrow for Canada on the way to Ireland. Original plan was to overnight at La Grande Riviere CYGL, but the only hotel there says they're full. Plan B is Amos, CYEY. I'll still plan stop at CYGL for fuel on route to CYFB on Sunday.

Here's a link to my InReach tracker for anyone who wants to follow along;

https://share.garmin.com/JimsRV10
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