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Old 06-02-2017, 05:28 PM
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How can there be 8 pages of back/forth about ME 406 ELT Battery?

Just buy a new battery when you're supposed to and get on with life.

This is like following the Kardashians...
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Old 06-08-2017, 10:09 PM
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Nobody is forcing you to read it.

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Old 06-09-2017, 10:46 AM
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I guess I'll throw in the towel. I got this answer from AOPA:

Thanks for reaching out to us in the Pilot Information Center.

91.207 applies to all aircraft. EXCEPT as mentioned in the paragraph you highlight...(a)(1). It calls out the exemptions in Paragraphs (e) and (f), Experimentals are not listed.

That being said, (e) only refers to Ferry operations. And (f) lists 10 exemptions to the us of an "approved" ELT. TSO'ed or Certified equipment are all that will be acceptable.

Please feel free to reach out to us with any other questions you may have.
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Old 04-14-2019, 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by RFSchaller View Post
This morning I submitted the following question by email on the FAA website.

I have an ELSA aircraft. Does the ELT in an experimental aircraft have to be TSO'd? If the unit is TSO'd and requires a new battery can an equivalent commercial grade battery from a source other than the original ELT manufacturer be used and still meet the "operable" requirement of FAR 91.207(a)(1)?

Thank you
Richard Schaller

Let's see what they say.
It's been a couple of years so by now the FAA must have replied, what did they say?

Regarding the $45 a year dilemma, it's really less. A battery costs around $180 BUT you still have to buy those "non approved" replacement batteries plus install them, which cost around $80. So $180 minus $80 then we're talking about $100 divided by 6 years = less than $17 a year.

I love saving money but if it's going to cost me $100 every 6 years to not have the risk of the insurance company not paying me if I bend my plane even if it's not a total loss and even if the accident has nothing to do with the ELT, I'll pay the extra $100. The insurance company will look for any reason not to pay you, count on that and this is how I know :

Back in 1998 I put a Seneca into the ocean, no pilot fault found by NTSB, long story for another time. The insurance claim was denied because when they checked the logbooks my transponder inspection was expired. The transponder had NOTHING to do with the accident and I was flying in airspace that did not need a transponder so it was turned off as per FAA Regulations. They still denied the claim. It took over a year and a lawsuit including letters from the FAA in my favor for the insurance company to pay me. That cost me way more than the $100 I would save using in an ELT battery I make instead of the one sold by the manufacturer.

That's just me though.
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Old 04-15-2019, 11:14 AM
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FAA never replied. I thought AOPA did a good job with their reply.
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