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Old 07-13-2019, 03:19 PM
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+1 on the strap wrench. I put an ez-turn on dry and it was VERY hard to get off. I don’t think anything but a heavy duty strap wrench would have done the job. If putting lube on an ez-turn makes it even harder to get off I guess I’ll either switch to Champion or get one of those reusable filters. More than likely I’ll go with the reusable. I don’t think I’ve heard a single negative comment about these (other than the price).
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Old 07-13-2019, 03:25 PM
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I use the Tempest EZ turn but I lube it with engine oil despite what Tempest says. Comes off easily!
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Old 07-13-2019, 03:42 PM
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12 point sockets suck...
I totally agree, but I can't use a socket at all because my oil filter is too close to the firewall. I'll use a screwdriver as a last resort, but on my way to the hangar tomorrow I'm going to look for a set of oil filter pliers or a set of 20" Channellocks. I seem to have lost my Rigid strap wrench somewhere along the way. I'm very disappointed in EZ-spin and will use DC-4 next time regardless of what Tempest says.
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Old 07-13-2019, 05:18 PM
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39 years changing oil filters on O320's that I have owned, using fresh engine oil on filter seal and installing with ONLY 3/4 turn after contact..... NEVER EVER had a problem removing the filter with a band wrench.

Use 3/4 turn, it is the same as the torque spec. It is easier to do, and a lot cheaper than a torque wrench.

Someone is doing something wrong.

500,000,000 car motors have filters that are installed with + 3/4 turn after contact..... and without safety wire, they stay in place for millions of miles.
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Old 07-13-2019, 05:27 PM
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39 years changing oil filters on O320's that I have owned, using fresh engine oil on filter seal and installing with ONLY 3/4 turn after contact...
Thanks for that. I've always felt that 16-18 ft. lbs. was excessive.
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Old 07-14-2019, 02:56 PM
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This oil filter removal is turning into a real nightmare. Today I borrowed a Fram oil filter wrench from my RV-12 buddy.
This wasn't the strap kind, but the kind with the jaws and teeth, like so:



It didn't work; The teeth just skidded along the surface of the can. So I drilled a hole in the can and screwed in a sheet metal screw to act as a stop. Still no dice.



So I pounded a large screwdriver through the filter and it still wouldn't loosen. WTF?



At this point, all I could think to do was to use a chisel to peel away the can:



Then I pried out the pleated paper filter:



After using a chisel to remove the remainder of the can, there was really nothing left but the base of the filter, which was a 1/8" thick steel stamping. Beating on the the edge with a brass drift and ball pein hammer wouldn't loosen it. I tried grinding on it with my peanut whistle cutoff wheel, but it was too sturdy to break up. I didn't want to grind into the oil filter adapter, either.

At this point I drove to Harbor Freight and bought a set of 20" slip joint pliers. Would you believe that the base of the filter still wouldn't budge??? I plugged up the oil passage with a paper towel so as not to get anything in there.



At that point I ran out of ideas and went home to think about it. The only idea I have come up with is to remove the left mag so as to get a better purchase with those Big Azz pliers. You guys got any ideas?
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Old 07-14-2019, 03:12 PM
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Can you remove the oil filter adaptor and get the whole mess on the bench?

Iíve had some tough ones, but youíre in really tough place. Good luck.
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Old 07-14-2019, 03:40 PM
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Can you remove the oil filter adaptor and get the whole mess on the bench?
It might come to that but I'm not sure it would help.
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Old 07-14-2019, 03:50 PM
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This oil filter removal is turning into a real nightmare. Today I borrowed a Fram oil filter wrench from my RV-12 buddy.
This wasn't the strap kind, but the kind with the jaws and teeth, like so:



It didn't work; The teeth just skidded along the surface of the can. So I drilled a hole in the can and screwed in a sheet metal screw to act as a stop. Still no dice.



So I pounded a large screwdriver through the filter and it still wouldn't loosen. WTF?



At this point, all I could think to do was to use a chisel to peel away the can:



Then I pried out the pleated paper filter:



After using a chisel to remove the remainder of the can, there was really nothing left but the base of the filter, which was a 1/8" thick steel stamping. Beating on the the edge with a brass drift and ball pein hammer wouldn't loosen it. I tried grinding on it with my peanut whistle cutoff wheel, but it was too sturdy to break up. I didn't want to grind into the oil filter adapter, either.

At this point I drove to Harbor Freight and bought a set of 20" slip joint pliers. Would you believe that the base of the filter still wouldn't budge??? I plugged up the oil passage with a paper towel so as not to get anything in there.



At that point I ran out of ideas and went home to think about it. The only idea I have come up with is to remove the left mag so as to get a better purchase with those Big Azz pliers. You guys got any ideas?
Heat will do wonders for this, if you get it on the bench. The heat will soften up the rubber washer and make removal easier.

A heat gun could be used on the plane and should get it warm enough to soften, it will just take a while. 1/8" steel will take a long time to get warm enough with a heat gun.


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Old 07-14-2019, 04:19 PM
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A heat gun could be used...
Good idea. I'll try that tomorrow.
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