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Old 10-24-2017, 06:34 AM
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Default GTN650 Education

What's the best (fastest) way to learn how to use the GTN650? I recently installed one in my RV9a. I do not have my IFR ticket but passed the written. Sometimes feel like I'm spinning my wheels even tho I have used the Garmin familiarization video and the online app that lets you work the knobs.

Just wondered what has worked for others. Thanks for any feedback.

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Old 10-24-2017, 07:19 AM
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The Ipad GTN trainer app is great. And Free
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Old 10-24-2017, 07:20 AM
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I was able to get fairly familiar with mine in my RV-10 by just going up and practicing with it. I was doing IFR training a couple years ago and my instructor had no idea how to use it, so he was no help. I would decide on a couple airports to do an approach and figure out how to get it loaded. A lot of stuff you can do on the ground. I got fairly good at it but sold the plane last year. I'll be back in the game hopefully next summer in the RV-9A.. I got all the goodies from SteinAir! How about Crosswinds Aviation for help. Don't they have Garmin equipped planes and young tech savvy instructors?
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Old 10-24-2017, 07:28 AM
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Go up with another pilot, have him fly the airplane while you push buttons to see what they do.

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Old 10-24-2017, 07:44 AM
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All great suggestions. In addition, search the App Store for an app called “Flying the GTN 650/750”. It’s a series of videos that I found really helpful.
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Old 10-24-2017, 07:51 AM
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There are several methods of learning new "glass" including the GTN-650. Here is something that may help.

Imagine a scenario or ask a CFII for a scenario such as:
  1. depart your local airport
  2. climb to NNNN altitude
  3. fly to XYZ airport (use something reasonable close by)
  4. fly the RNAV XX approach with circle to land

Then ...
  1. use the GTN iPad app, on-line sources and videos, etc to learn the buttonology to complete the task
  2. fly with a co-pilot and complete the task VFR (request the 'practice approach RNAV XX into XYZ')
  3. if you have an autopilot, perform the complete practice flight with and without the autopilot
  4. compare your ground learning with your in-flight experience

This is just one example and there are enroute navigation examples, holds, missed procedures, changing flight plans in the air, and many many more.

When you start your IFR flight training, see if you can find a CFII who is familiar with GPS and/or EFIS systems. They don't need to know your system but if they have familiarity beyond the "six pack" and "radio navigation" they will be more help to your in your airplane.
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Old 10-24-2017, 08:53 AM
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Jim:
I'm not too far away. If you're interested in practicing together occasionally, perhaps we can take turns flying in each other's planes and we can both learn something in the process. This would not be flight instruction, as you're best served tackling that with someone who can give it the focus you need. Let me know - (248) 417-8585

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Old 10-24-2017, 09:03 AM
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I was able to get fairly familiar with mine in my RV-10 by just going up and practicing with it. I was doing IFR training a couple years ago and my instructor had no idea how to use it, so he was no help. I would decide on a couple airports to do an approach and figure out how to get it loaded. A lot of stuff you can do on the ground. I got fairly good at it but sold the plane last year. I'll be back in the game hopefully next summer in the RV-9A.. I got all the goodies from SteinAir! How about Crosswinds Aviation for help. Don't they have Garmin equipped planes and young tech savvy instructors?
Good to idea. I had thought about that then the thought went away-my aging brain I guess.

I do have the GTNXXX Trainer from the App Store and it is helpful but not as helpful as the slide tutorials I used back in the early 70's at college. When one task was learned and mastered you advanced to the next. Learning when flying the plane is a handful and yes I have tried going up and learning while a buddy flies the plane. I ended up poking a lot of buttons and it was time consuming. My goal is when flying in the soup I'll know how to use the GTN650 inside and out.

Thanks for your replies.

Jim
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Old 10-24-2017, 09:05 AM
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Jim:
I'm not too far away. If you're interested in practicing together occasionally, perhaps we can take turns flying in each other's planes and we can both learn something in the process. This would not be flight instruction, as you're best served tackling that with someone who can give it the focus you need. Let me know - (248) 417-8585

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RV9A N323TP
Thanks Terry!! Will take you up on that.

Jim
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Old 10-24-2017, 09:31 AM
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Default Old fashiond way

I actually read the manual that came with the 650. Then I installed the Garmn 650 simulator on my iPad.
Lots of good and useful information in the book.
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