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Old 06-12-2019, 07:55 PM
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WTH. Is it bash Alan day or what. FWIW I think Anti-splat is as good a business as it gets....
Newbie,
Nobody has bashed Alan. Jack just gave consumer feedback, and Alan responded appropriately...all good. Several folks have rendered their opinions about specific products. Alan criticized a product that is no longer produced (and the former vendor no longer advertises here on VAF), but that others find positive. I have 6 of Alan's products installed in KELLI GIRL.

I also had the RV Gust Buster kit, but have moved on to my own home-rolled rudder luck that I prefer...simpler, lighter, just as effective while easier to install, and yet I can't ever launch with it installed. The Gust Buster rudder kit is quite light and compact as Walt said, but for me just has too many parts and is more difficult to install than I like.

I still use the RV Gust Buster's bungee-based stick locks. Best of both worlds.
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Old 06-13-2019, 02:32 AM
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Make no mistake, I'm not a basher. I have a number of Allan's products and love them all. Just thought I'd ask again about the gust lock for my -14. I know they have a backlog of interested owners.
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Old 06-13-2019, 04:39 AM
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Hey Ron,

Would those rings have fared better if they had been screwed in tight, up to the bearing surface?
They were.
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Old 06-13-2019, 04:52 AM
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Make no mistake, I'm not a basher. I have a number of Allan's products and love them all. Just thought I'd ask again about the gust lock for my -14. I know they have a backlog of interested owners.
I too have several of Allan’s products and am happy with what I have. Just want to understand a timeline for the -14 gust lock ...
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Old 06-13-2019, 05:16 AM
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Does anyone have suggestions for a product that fits the F1 Rocket?
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Old 06-13-2019, 10:04 AM
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I too have several of Allan’s products and am happy with what I have. Just want to understand a timeline for the -14 gust lock ...
….OK! I get it, and it appears its time for me to do some explaining about what
happened with the RV-14 "Ultimate Gust Lock". I didn't have a RV-14 at my
disposal to model the gust lock for some time, and this was the first draw back.
I finely gained access to one and acquired all necessary dimensions Etc. to draw
up one and created a prototype. We actually made some and low and behold,
when I tried them on another aircraft they did not fit. Then I found that nobody
uses the Van's original stick that I had made the gust locks for, so back to the
drawing board. I found a gentleman in Phoenix who was kind enough to let me
fly there and get all the information off his aircraft so we could continue. I also
got one of the new sticks from Tostin to facilitate making the new required part.
At this point I thought we were over the hump and could proceeded with a
working prototype and then begin to produce this product. I sent it out to the
shop and began to produce parts, but unfortunately after a considerable pile
of scrap was created we caught the mistake and needed to make some changes.
Now all of this fiasco took a lot of time, and we hade neglected our other
projects and obligations. I stopped work on the gust locks to get caught up with
full intentions of returning to the task at hand soon. We obviously missed the
boat on that plan as other things came up that took precedence and required
our attention. I am not trying to make excuses or justify why we dropped the
ball on this one, but rather explain it as it was. I made some promises that I
wasn't able to keep and I apologize for the delays. We are getting caught up
with some of the backlog and should be able to get this going again. I have
saved everyone's requests and e-mail so I will inform all when this is available.
Again, I apologize for any inconvenience I may have caused, and will do our
best to get these finished. Thanks, Allan...
P.S. I don't feel picked on or abused so no worries there!
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Old 06-13-2019, 10:17 AM
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Or, just keep it simple, light and cheap. Compared to other approaches, this is stronger as you are not fighting the large rudder leverage arm like locks close to the hinge line. A padded piece of angle, some line and bowline knots - done.

Recommend not using bungee cord for this application.

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Old 06-13-2019, 11:36 PM
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Carl, I like your rudder gust lock but what/how does the front of the line get secured?
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Old 06-14-2019, 02:42 AM
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….OK! I get it, and it appears its time for me to do some explaining about what happened with the RV-14 "Ultimate Gust Lock".
Hi Allan,

I watched your video on the gust lock, and it’s seems to work only when the stick is perpendicular to the pedals (if you know what I mean). Or maybe at a tangent to the point of rotation of the lock on the pedals (if that makes any more sense). If the stick was full back (I.e. for a taildragger) I take it the gust lock would not work?

Is there anyway to mount the bracket on the stick end at a different angle to allow for full back stick? (Or provide 2 holes in it and a pin and you can set it up for your aircraft)

Thank you!
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Old 06-14-2019, 08:26 AM
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Carl, I like your rudder gust lock but what/how does the front of the line get secured?
Loop the line around the two inboard elevator hinges. I use a 2” or so piece of heat shrink on the end of the lines to make it easy to fish up around the hinge. Tie with a bowline knot - not a slip knot. That way they are easy to untie.

After the lines are on, use the pilot seat belt wrapped around the stick to secure the elevators up and to keep the line off the bottom of the elevators. Then secure the rudder.

The belt around the stick also restricts aileron movement.

Again, avoid the temptation to use bungee cords.

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