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Old 02-13-2018, 02:40 PM
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Gil hit the nail on the head. That is a nutplate strip used to attach the rudder counterweight to the Rudder Tip Rib.
But not described in the manual????
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Old 02-13-2018, 02:46 PM
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The part is called out in the latest rudder drawing. The manual states "Install the E-614-020 counterweight (see exploded view on DWG 7).
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Old 02-13-2018, 03:01 PM
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Well darn, after 10 years I figured all the updates were done. Guess I am old style.

I wonder if it is worth reworking before paint?
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Old 02-13-2018, 08:10 PM
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The part is called out in the latest rudder drawing. The manual states "Install the E-614-020 counterweight (see exploded view on DWG 7).
I may be blind, but I don't see that on the exploded drawing on my printed plans (kit ordered last summer). Nor do I see it on the PDF plans I ordered prior to that. No matter, if that's what it is, that area is already riveted together. I'm as certain as I can be that I put Loc-tite Blue Threadlocker* on those thinking, at the time, "I'm not getting to these any time soon."

Now the question is: how much of a safety concern is this?

*Aviation grade, of course ;-)
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Old 02-13-2018, 10:19 PM
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I may be blind, but I don't see that on the exploded drawing on my printed plans (kit ordered last summer). Nor do I see it on the PDF plans I ordered prior to that. No matter, if that's what it is, that area is already riveted together. I'm as certain as I can be that I put Loc-tite Blue Threadlocker* on those thinking, at the time, "I'm not getting to these any time soon."

Now the question is: how much of a safety concern is this?

*Aviation grade, of course ;-)
I am in the same boat. I am not going to worry about it. I figure there are 1000 rv 9s flying with my style of rudder. Just sonething to check every year during condition inspection.
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Old 02-14-2018, 09:24 AM
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If it were a safety issue, wouldn't Vans issue a Service Bulletin? So it must be a modification to the kit.
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Old 02-14-2018, 09:07 PM
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I don't think Blue Locktight as noted in post #14 will be of any benefit as the loosening of the lead is due to leads' ductility and or lack of resilience. I added some JB weld to the mating surface of mine.
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Old 02-15-2018, 03:49 AM
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must be very new. I am positive I did not have this part in my 2017 -7 kit. The -9 Rudder happens to be the same as the -7...
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Old 02-15-2018, 05:43 AM
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Check the hole spacing, it could be a "two nutplate holder" that replaces the two nuts retaining the rudder lead counterweight.

Weren't some folks having trouble with these nuts coming loose as the lead squished a bit and then had no access to tighten them after assembly?
This is my vote, the later lead weights a so soft that proper torque can not be attained on the bolts and stock washers.

You will have to fill the counterbore recesses, I machined an aluminum spacer for it, epoxy would work too. A standard washer is does not have enough surface area and will embed in the lead. I tested all of this. The lead mold is too cold and the lead is not hot enough when poured to make a good solid piece. Tested that too.

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Well darn, after 10 years I figured all the updates were done. Guess I am old style.

I wonder if it is worth reworking before paint?
I would.
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Old 04-16-2018, 06:51 AM
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Interesting..

Here’s a question I asked on the -14 forum, from following a build log, it showed the part and an install diagram from the 14 plans, but it was not shown on my preview plans nor on the plans changes section of the website. It shows the plans and part.

http://www.vansairforce.com/communit...d.php?t=159464

Do they ship kits with parts and plans not shown online? (I.e. plans changes online falling behind those sent out with kits?).
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