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Old 01-27-2014, 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Walt View Post
Maybe someone can post the ID/OD of the replacement filter they bought (with no 'B' suffix) and I'll get the same on the new Van's filter.

Part E-3450 Product Specifications
Product Style: Round Air Filter
Height: 2.5 in (64 mm)
Inner Wire: No
Inside Diameter: 6.25 in (159 mm)
Outside Diameter: 7.75 in (197 mm)
Top Style: Open
Top Material/Finish: None
Air Filter Shape: Round
Filter Material: Cotton Gauze
Flanges: None
Package Contents: 1 Air Filter
Package Quantity: 1
Filter Re-Oiling Amount: 0.65 oz (19 ml)
Weight: 1 lb (0.5 kg)
Product Box Length: 8.5 in (216 mm)
Product Box Width: 3.63 in (92 mm)
Product Box Height: 8.63 in (219 mm)
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Old 01-27-2014, 09:34 AM
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I had one shrink and over the course of the 300 hrs this year, the relative movement had worn a hole in the bottom of the filtered air box.
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Old 01-27-2014, 12:13 PM
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Well looks like you guys are right, the filter I removed is a full inch less in ID/OD measurements than the figures posted above by Brantel which matches with the filters I get from Van's.

I am amazed it could shrink that much!

So I guess the title should be changed to "The Amazing Shrinking Air Filters".
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Old 01-27-2014, 12:36 PM
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Default Get them replaced

K&N will replace filters that shrank under their 'million mile warranty'. I've had a few replaced.
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Old 01-27-2014, 01:18 PM
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Default K&N Engineering Contact Info

Perhaps a call to them is in order. They have been pretty responsive to serious technical inquires in the past.

Send all product related inquiries to: If your question is vehicle specific, please provide the vehicle's year, make, model, and engine size in your email.

Phone: (800) 858-3333 or (951) 826-4000

Mailing Address:
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PO Box 1329
Riverside, California 92502

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Old 01-27-2014, 05:49 PM
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The air filters made of cotton shrink just like our clothing, especially when exposed to thermal cycles, 100LL and engine oil...oil draining down intake tubes and over priming.

This particular filter is undersized for the air volume passing through it for any of our engines of 360 cu in or greater turning 2700 rpm. Add to this the ram effect at 160-180 kias and it is easy to see why they shrink.

K&N does not warranty filters used for off road use.

I bonded a .032" aluminum plate to the fiberglass bottom to prevent the filter from wearing through and to provide better attachment for the alternate air door.
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Old 01-27-2014, 06:27 PM
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Old 01-27-2014, 11:12 PM
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Default Another data point to all the data points...

I'm coming up on 400 hours and my filter has been filtering since March 2008. It's probably starting to get close to the picture that Walt posted at the very top. I need to think about getting a new one as well. Funny how these things shrink and thanks for the explanation why, guys.

So, there's another data point about the ever shrinking K&Ns filter.
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Old 01-28-2014, 01:55 PM
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This thread got me looking at my air filter while I have the plane apart. Almost 400 hours and 7 years old...don't think it's ever been replaced or cleaned but I'm not certain of that since I bought the plane flying. I looked on amazon and got a replacement E3450 after some automatic discounts when I went to checkout for $12 (only 7 left at that price). Can't beat that...hope it fits and hope others can benefit from that. Only one worked with the discount...I couldn't get more than 1 at that price.
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Old 01-28-2014, 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by xavierm View Post
K&N will replace filters that shrank under their 'million mile warranty'. I've had a few replaced.
Correct... while down for condition inspection, just send yours back in for warranty if shrunk up, it is covered. they do shrink.
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