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Old 10-12-2017, 06:42 AM
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Default RV10 - Project Planning - When to order Engine\Finish Kit

I am probably 6-12 months away from finishing the fuselage kit and starting to planning finances and timing for finish kit and engine. I am not yet certain where I will order the engine from so not sure of the lead time for that item.

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1) How much work is there to done (hours) on the finish kit that does not require engine to be hung?

2) I am building in my basement so I want to keep if off the gear as long as possible as it will not fit out my basement with the gear on. Is it possible advisable to mount the engine without the gear in place? (Keep it on a cradle with engine?)

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Old 10-12-2017, 07:49 AM
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1) How much work is there to done (hours) on the finish kit that does not require engine to be hung?
If it helps you any, we logged our time by sections here
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Old 10-12-2017, 07:57 AM
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If ordering a Lycoming order it now. It took mine just over 6 months to get here despite Van's 12 week lead time on their website. Ordered at Sun-N-Fun, arriving today. If you order through Vans you will pay a deposit and then the balance before it ships.
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Old 10-12-2017, 08:57 AM
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Default Finish kit

Depending on you work speed there is several hundred hours of work in the finish kit. The biggest single task is the doors.

I went to the finish kit as soon as the fuselage structure was near complete in order to add the doors and seats to get a feel for the ergonomics of switch placement, overhead clearance and getting the wiring well under way.
I would love to have the engine in place to get the balance of the sensor wiring complete before I close the front top skin and bond in the windows. That will likely not happen due to timing of funds and my desire to continue working.

I still don't have the gear on, but am getting close. (just like I havn't bonded the windows in yet) It is just so much easier to work on/in the fuselage with it low to the floor. The flip side is there is a lot of work in the gear, brakes and wheel pants to get done. I don't like the idea of 50+K worth of engine and prop gathering dust while I plug away at the gear.
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Old 10-13-2017, 05:16 AM
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Depending on you work speed there is several hundred hours of work in the finish kit. The biggest single task is the doors.
Leo, I think I will be following a similar approach.

Does anyone know the maximum lateral swing dimensions of the door as it opens and final vertical dimension once they are fully open (Referenced to the door sill --F1015-C - Mid Cabin Deck) I am trying to figure out if I could work on the doors in my basement but I may have some height\width limitations in my workshop ....?
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Old 10-13-2017, 06:00 AM
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Default Door swing

The doors are approximately 2 feet above the fuselage/cabin top and 1 foot out from the fuselage side when fully open. (a little less on each) The swing envelope is all within those dimensions.
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What about your panel? I'm being told that in order to hang the engine, you need to rivet in the top section of the forward fuse, which includes the subpanel, panel and the top skin above the panel. Once this is riveted in, it limits your ability to install avionics on the subpanel, doesn't it? It seems, if one wants to get all that panel stuff figured out when access is good, then it would have to be done way ahead of installing the front windshield, cabin top center brace and engine/prop. Is this incorrect information? Can one easily do all the avionics build out, with the metal work permanently installed? In the instructions for the fuse kit, Vans has you permanently install that section of the structure before doing the cabin top...

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Default Forward fuselage skin

Mike,
Thanks for asking this as I was wondering as well. I want to hold off in this forward skin as long as I can.
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Default Forward fuse

Many people can, and do, hang the engine before riveting that section. I have seen some that just hang the engine and press on and some that hang the engine and leave the lift attached to take the weight off of the mount.

There really is only one section, in between the firewall and the mid bulkhead that you canít readily get to...but you really wouldnít mount anything there as, well, you canít really get to it😜
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What about your panel? I'm being told that in order to hang the engine, you need to rivet in the top section of the forward fuse, which includes the subpanel, panel and the top skin above the panel. Once this is riveted in, it limits your ability to install avionics on the subpanel, doesn't it? It seems, if one wants to get all that panel stuff figured out when access is good, then it would have to be done way ahead of installing the front windshield, cabin top center brace and engine/prop. Is this incorrect information? Can one easily do all the avionics build out, with the metal work permanently installed? In the instructions for the fuse kit, Vans has you permanently install that section of the structure before doing the cabin top...

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This is not at all a concern.

If Van's still tells you to do the avionics cutout however, I recommend you not do this until after you decide where to place stuff. The Van's location was useless. It is easy enough to do after all the rest of the plane is done.

Do however install your parking brake valve and ground block "forest of tab" now.

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