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Old 01-07-2016, 12:53 PM
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Not specifically RV related, but certainly germane to all pilots, passengers, etc.

The 40 years that I have been flying has allowed me to gain insight and experience. As such, it also allows me to state an opinion when I see things that are wrong.
Many of today's pilots seem to have lost their respect for the damage that a propeller can do if the engine ignites unexpectedly. Frequently, I see pilots just moving the prop with no regard for assuring that their body and all appendages are clear in the event of an inadvertent ignition. Watch this video to see how real this can be! (no one is injured, just likely required a change of bloomers!)
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Old 01-07-2016, 12:59 PM
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I think this is the correct link:
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Old 01-07-2016, 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by krwalsh View Post
Thanks! Corrected it in my post.
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Old 01-07-2016, 01:43 PM
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I have read the article but do not see a video.

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Old 01-07-2016, 01:55 PM
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You're probably right, and being around Rotax 912 that can be hand propped but is quite difficult to do so, one sees even more lack of concern for the potential to start with one single movement past the mag.
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Old 01-07-2016, 01:57 PM
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Check magneto grounds often. I like to put the keys on top of the glare shield, visible through the windscreen, whenever I'm doing anything around the engine.
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Old 01-07-2016, 03:16 PM
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Pretty darn scary. That guy is lucky to have "only" shat his pants!
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Old 01-07-2016, 04:56 PM
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Almost lost a friend to a 150 hp Kinner blade strike on leg.

My near miss was a BC-12D A-65 metal prop. (cool flange adapter to put on metal prop).

Second priming of planned four, Mag lever switch off, she fires up. Missed by a mile, but time compressed for a few seconds.

I always do a body check, zip or remove coat, gloves on for bigger engines, treat every pull as the one that will fire her.

The scary part was the look on the pilot's face, it said, "it's still off!" It was. A friend, A&P and solid Jarhead. No mixture, saw the switch off before, too. So odd I had to slow down to really take my time and walk away around the prop to see the switch.

He points and says go ahead, try it.

I Swipe to both from off, swipe off, engine starts to stop. Self cleaning I guess. I ask him to do same to confirm.

He did more slowly, but wisely kept it running. His propper was done for that day.

I routinely check mags before shutdown, switch function is by product of a 1350 rpm Mag drop check, a few turns rich of leaned out. Just a technique.
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Old 01-07-2016, 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by RV8JD View Post
Also, it seems that fewer and fewer pilots are calling "Clear Prop" prior to starting their engines. I'm not sure what current CFI's are teaching, or whether pilots are getting lazy.
I was surprised when firing up near a local flying clubhouse....when I called
"...clear prop!...." there was actually a response!..from a pilot nearby who turns, checks that nothing is within or in front of my prop disc.....and calls.....
" props clear....."

gives you a warm fuzzy that some dog, kid, tow bar etc. is not about to be cleaved in two!

now if only several THOUSAND pilots and their friends would stop touching, leaning on, and grabbing the prop so they can look cooler? in every photo!
STOP DOING THIS! the ONLY reason to touch a prop is to clear oil lock on a radial, or prime, or START an ENGINE!
it is NOT a selfie stick!
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Old 01-07-2016, 05:11 PM
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I have also witnessed lax prop discipline, and it disturbed me enough to mention it to the ground crew that was showing it. I think it helped.
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