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Hangar Exchange Program

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The VAF site has two features which offer fellow RV’ers refuge when needed, the “Hurricane Inland Bases” list and the “RV Hotel” list. I’ve no idea how frequently these are proving useful, but on the assumption that they are in fact helpful, I’d like to suggest another for consideration.

Cross country travel in homebuilt aircraft can be troublesome for many of us since like many/most others here, I built the airplane myself and the idea that it might get damaged in a storm while tied down overnight or simply get really grungy from sitting out in the elements for several days really bothers me. That means I’m always looking for hangar space during trips and though often FBO’s can help, just as often their prices are prohibitive, even shocking in some cases (I’ve seen $80 a night!). You know from just the tone and helpful nature of the RV community that IF you knew someone at the airport you are going to, they would likely open their hangar to you if room were available---and you to them in return. But what are the chances that a literal quid pro quo such as that could be readily arranged on short notice?

So, I’m wondering if there might be any interest in establishing a directory of those who have hangar space more or less routinely available---short and long term. Everyone’s situation is different so there might be some for whom this would be no problem and others where it wouldn’t work at all. If, however, there are enough for whom such a program would not pose an undue burden such that a real network of available hangars could be established, it might be a very useful thing.

Doug may want to chime in here as there might have to be some “rules” established by the smart guys on the site to make it work. I assume responsibility and liability issues would have to be addressed, but even with those limitations in mind, maybe this could be a useful program. I would think aircraft would have to be fully insured “on their own” and not able to depend upon any insurance (or lack thereof) by the hosting hangar owner. Other considerations might also have to be invoked (like you have to make your hangar available to others also or you can’t participate?), but if we had a nationwide network of available hangars, cross-country travel might be greatly facilitated and much less worrisome for the community.

What do you think?
 
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Now this is a stroke of brilliance!

I plan on being away from the "nest" for months at a time, but would gladly trade hangar space AND VEHICLE with someone for the same elsewhere!

I might even throw in the house!

Count me in!

I am interested in seeing how this develops!

:cool: CJ
 
It's sort of already in place in the RV Hotel section. But, I see how this could be useful as well.
I'm in.
 
"RV Your Way"

This new program could be "RV Your Way" (RVYW), as in RVYW across the country.... Sounds wonderful.

It will need a committed volunteer or two, an accessible repository of all the data to be collected (hangar space, specific airports, contact info, etc.), and someone to write some software and create a centralized calendar to match needs with availability on specific dates in specific places. E.g., click on Georgia and all the Georgia airports with hangar space show up, then click on an airport and the hangar options and contact info show up... Of course, it would be good to have that airport's info show too, e.g., runways, frequencies, fuel prices, etc.

I hope it can be done; it would be great to have..
 
USA/TX/DallasArea(N)/HangarX2/RoomX3/Truck

USA/TX/DallasArea(N)/HangarX2/RoomX3/Truck

This proposed 'RV Hotel, Hangar Space, Spare Vehicle' section could easily be added to the existing forums, and would very nicely remove me from the editing function of the current RV Hotel list (a good thing!).

Each person's listing would be its own separate post in this new section. You could lock the post yourself so that the information would be presented as YOU want it (no replies if you don't want them).

A subject line formatted like the one above conveys most of the info needed to the casual scanner, and if all the posts are named similarly (COUNTRY/STATE/CITY/SPECIFICS) the entries can easily be sorted by name anytime in the future. 'Sort by thread title' is one of the options at the bottom of every section of the forums. Individual-specific info would be in the actual post, of course, and the original poster could always edit their entry on their own down the road as their circumstances change.

The example used above says, "I have hangar space for two extra planes, rooms for three guests and a spare truck you can use."

Some other examples:

USA/TX/DallasArea/ROOM
'I don't have hangar space, but do have a place for you to sleep.'

USA/TX/DallasArea/HANGARx1/TRUCK
'You can't sleep here, but I have hangar space for one visiting plane and a vehicle you can use.'

This is also a painless way for the RV Hotel list to be combined with this 'hangar exchange' idea, and takes me out of the RV Hotel data entry loop (again, a good thing!).

The challenge as I see it, is folks having the subject line discipline to use the same naming convention so it can be easily sorted later. To address this I could create a sticky thread at the top of the section, something like READ ME BEFORE LISTING IN HERE that goes into detail why it is so import to have your subject line like the ten or so examples listed...for sorting.

Anyway, just my thoughts.

Comments?
 
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USA/OK/OKC/HangarX2/RoomX3-4/Truck

USA/TX/DallasArea(N)/HangarX2/RoomX3/Truck

This proposed 'RV Hotel, Hangar Space, Spare Vehicle' section could easily be added to the existing forums, and would very nicely remove me from the editing function of the current RV Hotel list (a good thing!).

Each person's listing would be its own separate post in this new section.

A subject line formatted like the one above conveys most of the info needed to the casual scanner, and if all the posts are named similarly (COUNTRY/STATE/CITY/SPECIFICS) the entries can easily be sorted by name anytime in the future. 'Sort by thread title' is one of the options at the bottom of every section of the forums. Individual-specific info would be in the actual post, of course, and the original poster could always edit their entry on their own down the road as their circumstances change.

The example used above says, "I have hangar space for two extra planes, rooms for three guests and a spare truck you can use."

Some other examples:

USA/TX/DallasArea/ROOM
'I don't have hangar space, but do have a place for you to sleep.'

USA/TX/DallasArea/HANGARx1/TRUCK
'You can't sleep here, but I have hangar space for one visiting plane and a vehicle you can use.'

This is also a painless way for the RV Hotel list to be combined with this 'hangar exchange' idea, and takes me out of the RV Hotel data entry loop (again, a good thing!).

The challenge as I see it, is folks having the subject line discipline to use the same naming convention so it can be easily sorted later. To address this I could create a sticky thread at the top of the section, something like READ ME BEFORE LISTING IN HERE that goes into detail why it is so import to have your subject line like the ten or so examples listed...for sorting.

Anyway, just my thoughts.

Comments?
i really like your idea Doug! That is a great way to organize this info. I have posted my info in the subject line of this message with your suggested format so if anyone is interested in contacting me please do so. I hope this is a doable thing as I have experienced some of the high prices mentioned in the original post (OP, for those following the acronym thread) when trying to hangar on cross country trips. I am looking forward to being able to use this idea this year. I can't wait to visit you guys out there.
 
Great to see you guys all check in on this, especially you DR! There is exceptional value and utility to the RV community on this site, I think this can only add to it. But, if I might be so bold, I'd like to make a couple more suggestions.

1. I think the addition of a set of "hard rules" is required. I think for one thing that it's important that NO liability attach to anyone nice enough to make space available to someone they don't know. I personally would not want to host anyone whose aircraft wasn't fully insured, liability and hull. Friends are friends but if your airplane suffers some serious hangar rash, this won't work if anyone expects to be able to hold hangar owners financially responsible.

2. I think a way to indicate whether occasional-only or longer term space is available at a given location would be helpful (the reason in a moment).

3. Also, an indication of whether or not visiting space is available when the offerer's aircraft is there or not. As I said in the OP, every situation will be different. In my case, I'm a part owner of a large-ish hangar, but only MY space is available. I have a partner and renter. Occasional space will be possible, but my personal hangar space will be fully available only when my airplane is not there.

4. Maybe someone on the site has the programming skills to build a calendar based search tool that would provide a pictorial layout of hangar space availability by date/period. Would be great to be able to see at a glance that there is two weeks of space available at KXXX over Thanksgiving. I'm not capable of doing that but I'd be happy to help someone lay it out.

To me, all of the above would really help. Item three for example, is one of the neat ways this can work out really well. In my own case, I would like to be able to fly my Rocket out to somewhere in Kansas or Colorado and be able to leave it there for longer terms, 3-6 months at a time while I go motorcycle adventuring---combining my two big hobbies into one. While there, my hangar slot in Ridgeland, SC would be available for an equivalent period of time.

I’m pretty sure other RV owners will have similar situations. If enough people sign up, it would mean that one-for-one swaps wouldn’t be necessary---there would be enough “traffic” in the system that everyone's requirements would have a chance of being satisfied: A stays with B, B stays with C, C stays with A, etc.

Lee...
 
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I always see RV's on the ramp at KVGT. That said I usually have room for two in my hangar at any given time. I've hosted some pretty nice folks over the years to include the west A-10 demo pilots. I'd be glad to offer space so count me in. I do reserve the right to say no to one person and his assigns, he knows who he is. All others are gladly welcome!
 
Hanger space

Count me in,,,, I have a large hanger at Granby CO, KGNB, most of the guys in the chapter can help and have keys. Look up ch 1267,,, I am out of town working on a project but will be back in the spring... Dave Cook
 
Hangar Exchange

With the recent growth of the "sharing" economy with things like airbnb.com, homeexchange.com, and uber or lyft, I have to wonder if perhaps the right way to do this is to simply create a website that does exactly what those services do, but for hangars. You post an available ad for the dates and locations you have availability, and a wanted ad for the times and locations you want to be somewhere else. Searching by date o location would give you the available options. The issue is that it needs a fairly large group of users before it becomes effective. Certainly with our hangar space we'd be gone many weekends or longer trips, and would gladly exchange our empty hangar for a place to park our plane while we're away.
 
I like the idea, but the RV hotel seems like it almost does this. I have been listed in there with hangar, car and house for several months now without a single contact. It's winter, people. Florida is warm (except tonight). Come visit! Ill hangar your plane, give you a bed and loan you my car. No takers yet.
 
Networking

I think this is a great idea as I always try to hangar when away from home. As for me I have a hangar but only room for my plane but I do have a third vehicle that I would gladly lend out to any RV passing through.

Though don't have space in my hangar I bet I could find some from someone that I know has extra hangar space. What I am saying is we all know non-RV owners who may have hangar space and if asked would supply a night or two.

Also you never know, I was down in Florida for a month and just rented a hangar for the month, yes one was available. The tough part was it was Sanford and it took a week to take the classes to get my unescorted flight line credentials.

If on a long stay check with the airport authority, they may just have an open hangar.

Cheers
 
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