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Old 07-26-2012, 10:52 PM
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I spoke with one of the Vans guys at their EAA booth.

One of the interesting things he said is that all of the prepunched holes are punched to final size and their testing showed that they did not need deburring. The time saving here must be huge!

He mentioned the higher cost is due to things like the now standard options that would otherwise be a somewhat hidden cost to the builder. Wiring harness, etc. He thought the final price would be only slightly higher than an similar 7 and mentioned 85k.

He also said that they will be producing a tail dragger version and will be testing other engine options.
I just wet myself.
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Old 07-27-2012, 08:22 AM
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Pretty soon, they'll be dimpling them, as well.

They already pre-dimple. The holes for the flush rivets on the leading edge skins of the RV-12 Wing come out of the crate with the dimples.
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Old 07-27-2012, 10:43 AM
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Default Take RV-14 Lessons and Apply to RV-7/8/9 Manuals & Kits

It would be great if Vans revamped the current RV-7/8/9 prepunched kits to no drilling and deburing required. That would greatly speed up these kits build time. They could also upgraded the manuals to reflect the best practices found in the RV-10 and 14 manuals. Just a thought...
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Old 07-27-2012, 11:15 AM
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They already pre-dimple. The holes for the flush rivets on the leading edge skins of the RV-12 Wing come out of the crate with the dimples.
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Wow. Does anyone know if this is an automated process or if they are doing it by hand? Just curious.
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Old 07-27-2012, 11:18 AM
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Steve,

Not good. Maybe Van's really IS onto something here.

I can see it 30 years from now. The RV-23 has a cockpit 60" wide at the seat level (but only 50" wide at the deck), weighs 1800 pounds empty, and takes an IO-720 to haul through the air.[/quote]

You might be on to something here. BUT
it is the RV 8B

30 inches wide
Showplane canopy
IO-720
single seat.

Nemesis or RV8B(BIG)
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Old 07-27-2012, 11:24 AM
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I did like the new qualities of the 14.
New gear--10
Wings------10
Tip up with struts in back. NICE
Taller canopy
No fiberglass cap like 10.

Would not go with prewire.
Would not go with engine. IO-540 instead.
Would be great back country plane with 540

Still can't build this plane for under 90-100K.

Should take 1500 hours unless you go see Jay Pratt.


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Old 07-27-2012, 11:25 AM
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It would be great if Vans revamped the current RV-7/8/9 prepunched kits to no drilling and deburing required. That would greatly speed up these kits build time. They could also upgraded the manuals to reflect the best practices found in the RV-10 and 14 manuals. Just a thought...
I have to admit, I'm greatly enjoying the accuracy of my RV-10 kit, with all the pre-punching and all. But I also greatly enjoyed building my RV-6A, without any of that, and feel much more confident of my building skills as a result. I think Van's is beginning to edge over into doing too much. Just my perspective as a builder. I also avoided the quick-build kits or buying someone else's project because I wanted the fun of doing the entire thing myself; why should someone else get my fun? But I also understand that others don't share my love of building and are more focused on the finished project. Maybe Van's should consider putting a design through the certification process to cater to all the people out there who'd love to have an RV without all the building. That's not sarcasm; there might be a real market out there.
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Old 07-27-2012, 11:38 AM
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Dan Horton and I already discusssed that option briefly.
I may have been drinking at the time
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I predict all the good N numbers with "14" in them will get reserved very quickly
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Old 07-27-2012, 12:18 PM
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I can see it 30 years from now. The RV-23 has a cockpit 60" wide at the seat level (but only 50" wide at the deck), weighs 1800 pounds empty, and takes an IO-720 to haul through the air.

You might be on to something here. BUT
it is the RV 8B

30 inches wide
Showplane canopy
IO-720
single seat.

Nemesis or RV8B(BIG)
How about a 3-seater with single pilot seat up front on the centerline and a bench seat for two in the back with removable stick in the middle
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