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Old 10-22-2018, 10:01 PM
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Yep aught to be a rule against selling or offering for sale more than say 4 or 5 N numbers per year. Or perhaps FAA could also allow/accept applications for this service by mail so that that the Short N Numbers.com can't snatch it from your request and hold it hostage.
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Old 10-22-2018, 10:05 PM
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Yeah, agree with that. Same for short-n-numbers.com. Thought I had an N number with my initials. short-n-numbers.com got it. I could get it from them ... for $2000. Such a deal

I wish they would disallow the practice ...
Seems like someone taking advantage of a government program/monopoly.
EAA or AOPA needs to jump in on that.
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Old 10-23-2018, 12:29 AM
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Yep aught to be a rule against selling or offering for sale more than say 4 or 5 N numbers per year. Or perhaps FAA could also allow/accept applications for this service by mail so that that the Short N Numbers.com can't snatch it from your request and hold it hostage.
Scams like this really p*ss me off. They're like patent trolls IMO.

There's one quick fix, although I doubt most people would like it...no reserving N-numbers. You can get a number once you have a plane registered, but not before, just like you can't reserve auto license plate numbers from the state.

Any other ideas on how to end this malarkey?
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Old 10-23-2018, 05:52 AM
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Any other ideas on how to end this malarkey?
There's probably a way to make it impossible to reserve a number and transfer it without it having been assigned to an airplane. So, you reserve a number - fine, but you can't sell it. You can either turn it in, or register an airplane with it.
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Old 10-23-2018, 09:38 AM
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Foolish me - I actually tried contacting the FAA about this. They didn't bother to respond ...
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Old 10-23-2018, 10:59 AM
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Foolish me - I actually tried contacting the FAA about this. They didn't bother to respond ...
FAA is never going to do anything about it on their own. There's absolutely zero impact to them for someone to scoop up N-numbers and resell them.

It'll take either push from someone in Congress, or an effort by the alphabet groups, to get movement out of the FAA on anything like this.

Best of luck.
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Old 10-23-2018, 05:46 PM
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Foolish me - I actually tried contacting the FAA about this. They didn't bother to respond ...
I agree, this practice should not be allowed. I wrote the FAA folks a couple of years ago, at this address FAA.Aircraft.Registry@faa.gov , and the response was that they could not stop Short-N-Numbers.com because there was nothing regulatory that prevented them from doing what they were doing.

In order to change the rules in this case, we need to write the FAA Administrator and our members of Congress and hope they make the appropriate changes.
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Old 10-23-2018, 08:22 PM
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Yeah, did that too, Congress not the Administrator. Not holding my breath ...
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Old 10-25-2018, 10:44 AM
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IMHO these guys make money on vanity, which I have no problem with. Just register your airplane with whatever number the FAA assigns and be done with it. If you want a specific "vanity" number then pay for it, at market price. Just my 2 cents.

BTW, I have two friends that own very short (N1RY, N2JU) tail numbers. I suspect that for the right $$$$ they would transfer the number to you.

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Old 10-25-2018, 11:56 AM
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IMHO these guys make money on vanity, which I have no problem with. Just register your airplane with whatever number the FAA assigns and be done with it. If you want a specific "vanity" number then pay for it, at market price. Just my 2 cents.

BTW, I have two friends that own very short (N1RY, N2JU) tail numbers. I suspect that for the right $$$$ they would transfer the number to you.

If the "resource" wasn't actually "owned"/controlled by the government (taxpayers, the public), I might agree with you. But it's not.

What if the guy eventually reserves *all* n-numbers, and then charges people thousands to "buy" an n-number? Still okay with that?
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