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RV8 Fuselage Top Skin Riveting

We are nearly ready to rivet-on the forward and aft fuselage top skins. Does anyone have any advice on how best to do this? Is it best to back rivet from the inside or is it best to buck from the inside and rivet from the outside?
Thanks in advance,
Rick
 
My preference it to rivet from the outside, buck on the inside. The most experienced person on the bucking bar, the newbie on the rivet gun.

The more important aspect is the generous use of shims. Make up a bunch of 3/4? x 3/4? 3/32? dimpled shims of .032?, .025? and .020? primed aluminum. If you can fit a shim between the rib/bulkhead and the skin, it needs a shim. This is how you prevent skin curved surfaces from having flat spots at the rivets.

Carl
 
Good tip. Thanks Carl ! About to start the fuselage and hadn?t hear of this problem yet ...
 
We riveted from the outside and bucked inside as well. Cut some boards, get a good light, and take some time to get comfy in there. It's not that bad.

We also shimmed. Sometimes you couldn't tell if you had enough shim until after you put the rivet in and noticed a flat spot. Keep your rivet removal tools handy as it only takes a minute to fix while you are all setup and the results last a lifetime.

DEM
 
it depends on your preference

I prefer back riveting, especially if your helper is inexperienced. All they have to do is put in a rivet and place the bucking bar over it while you back rivet. I think it also leaves a better appearance on the outside with less tendency to cause a depression from riveting from the outside. (If you do get a depression from riveting you can tap up on the shop head to reduce the appearance from the outside.)
The front skin is a different animal altogether. You can not back rivet a bunch of rivets, inside the gear towers and other areas if you already have the radios, etc installed. It is possible to drive all of the rivets on the front skin, but some find it easier to use blind rivets in hard to get to areas.
Shimming, as already stated, makes a much nicer final product if you have any low spots. I use aluminum flashing material for shims quite a bit, since it is cheap, very thin and virtually eliminates visible steps in the skin after riveting. Get the skin on as tightly as you can with the clecos for the best results.
good luck.
 
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