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Old 05-17-2018, 12:26 PM
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Iím working on my -8 QB fuselage. Drilled the holes for the mid cabin covers and am putting in the nut plates. However, the aft most hole on the right side has put me in a quandary. I have removed the console cover but the angle that it attaches to is preventing me from being able to get a squeezer or my rivet gun in to lay flat on the rivets. Was wondering how others have done this. I have clearance on all the other holes. Iím sure there is a simple solution that has evaded me. Thanks
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Old 05-17-2018, 01:08 PM
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Just nutplate, no? The nutplate attach rivets are not structural Use countersunk 3/32 pop-type rivet.
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Old 05-17-2018, 01:34 PM
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Use a rivet gun and bucking bar.
I don't think you can do the entire plane with just a squeezer.
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Old 05-17-2018, 05:33 PM
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I use clickbond nutplates for locations like this but if want this nutplate I would drill holes to #33 and pop rivet MSP32 rivet on both sides.

For these nutplates that hold panels like this I also recommend tapping the nutplate before riveting it. They can be very tight to get screws in later.
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Old 05-17-2018, 06:57 PM
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Thanks for the replies. Iíll do it with pop rivets. I knew it would be a simple solution but sometimes when youíre trying to fit rivet guns and squeezers in tight places, frustration gets the best of you and you canít think clearly. Thatís why I get on this forum daily. Itís the best resource out there!
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Old 05-17-2018, 07:48 PM
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Parallel jaw pliers are your friend. They will squeeze -3 easily and -4 if you have a gorilla grip. If I am doing just a few rivets I will just use these instead of dragging out and adjusting a squeezer.
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Old 05-17-2018, 07:50 PM
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I use clickbond nutplates for locations like this...
Enzo,

Where do you get your click bonds from?
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Old 05-18-2018, 01:06 PM
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Parallel jaw pliers are your friend. They will squeeze -3 easily and -4 if you have a gorilla grip. If I am doing just a few rivets I will just use these instead of dragging out and adjusting a squeezer.
Thatís a good idea. You can even drill holes in the jaws to hold dies for dimpling.
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Old 05-18-2018, 02:07 PM
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Where do you get your click bonds from?
https://www.electricalhub.com/click-...SAAEgIo-PD_BwE
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Old 05-18-2018, 03:34 PM
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I remember what a bear these were. Van's instructions recommend using vice grips modified with flat jaws... and just squeeze the heck out of them. I was less than impressed with my own results... but after a bit of touch-up they were adequate rivets for securing nut plates. This is one of those jobs that had me dreaming of inventing the perfect tool for the job...
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