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Old 05-12-2018, 01:00 PM
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Wish I had done this with my cooler as well. Unfortunately, kind of late now. I opted for a larger cooler on the stock mount...
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Old 05-12-2018, 01:15 PM
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I opted for a larger cooler on the stock mount...
Same here. You could also build turning vanes and an exhaust shroud into the stock installation to <maybe> get better airflow. I'll blow up that bridge if I come to it...
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Old 05-12-2018, 04:16 PM
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Wish I had done this with my cooler as well. Unfortunately, kind of late now. I opted for a larger cooler on the stock mount...
I used the AirFlow systems 2006X cooler (same dimensions as the one Vans sells for the IO-540). Never had a high oil temp - and I did a hard test lifting off near Phoenix in the summer and climbing to 15K on my way home.

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Old 05-12-2018, 04:23 PM
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Data point. I have the stock cooler in the stock location and my oil temps are just fine year around flying between Northern Va, Florida, and Louisiana.
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Old 05-17-2018, 09:27 AM
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Anyone delete the seat assembly (CA SEAT ASSEMBLY -10) and purchase aftermarket?

What I can't tell from the packing list is if these are both the seat structure and the upholstered cushions or merely structure and tailored foam ready to be upholstered. Didn't use the stock seat pans for our -7 but I don't know if the aftermarket companies provide both the seat and the upholstery.

I'm not a huge fan of the stock seats so probably will go aftermarket for the interior. Wish Classic Aero would get back into this market. Luke D. are you listening?
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Old 05-17-2018, 09:52 AM
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Anyone delete the seat assembly (CA SEAT ASSEMBLY -10) and purchase aftermarket?

What I can't tell from the packing list is if these are both the seat structure and the upholstered cushions or merely structure and tailored foam ready to be upholstered. Didn't use the stock seat pans for our -7 but I don't know if the aftermarket companies provide both the seat and the upholstery.

I'm not a huge fan of the stock seats so probably will go aftermarket for the interior. Wish Classic Aero would get back into this market. Luke D. are you listening?
There's no upholstery in the kit. The seat structures and foam is what comes in the kit - the upholstery is 100% aftermarket. I don't think Van's will allow you to delete any of that from the kit as it's part of the crashworthiness of the design.
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Old 05-17-2018, 11:42 AM
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There's no upholstery in the kit. The seat structures and foam is what comes in the kit - the upholstery is 100% aftermarket. I don't think Van's will allow you to delete any of that from the kit as it's part of the crashworthiness of the design.
There is no crashworthiness since it's an experimental aircraft. There is no 25.301 or 25.307 compliance since it's never been certified.
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There is no crashworthiness since it's an experimental aircraft. There is no 25.301 or 25.307 compliance since it's never been certified.
I know that. I also know that you are free to do what you want you want since it's E-AB. Nevertheless, the design incorporates those seat for crashworthiness even though there is no regulatory requirement to do so. Consequently, Van's will not allow you to delete them from the kit. You may choose not to install them but that would not be recommended by anyone I know.
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Old 05-17-2018, 11:56 AM
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There is no crashworthiness since it's an experimental aircraft. There is no 25.301 or 25.307 compliance since it's never been certified.
Todd is correct. Vans will not let you delete the seat structures, just like they won't let you delete the safety latch kit. I suspect that, in their eyes, they need to provide you with these items for safety and/or liability reasons. Whether or not you use them in your build is up to you, the builder.
A while ago, I had the chance to buy portions of an RV-10 project that the builder purchased without a pre-buy and later determined to be un-airworthy. I was going to buy several items that had not been installed in his airplane, but couldn't, because I was told by Vans that they were unable to delete those things from my order (seats and safety latch kit) for "safety reasons."
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All understood. I've submitted my order with the items I wanted to delete and now I'm just waiting to hear back from Barb or Anne-Marie.
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