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Old 06-13-2018, 11:08 AM
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I'm getting conflicting information.

I've purchased an RV6 and did not build the airplane.

I've been told that I can modify the airplane panel, do maintenance on the engine, general maintenance on the airframe.

I've been told, the only need for an A&P is when the annual condition inspection is done.

Am I being led astray?

What is the controlling FAR?
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Old 06-13-2018, 11:10 AM
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You're not being mislead, this is correct. Someone else will have to cite references.
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Old 06-13-2018, 11:16 AM
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The EAA's official position:

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I am going to buy a used homebuilt, what work can I perform myself?
FAR Part 43 specifically states that the rules of that part do not apply to experimental, amateur-built aircraft. Therefore, any work (not just maintenance) on an experimental aircraft can be performed virtually by anyone regardless of credentials. (This does not apply to the condition inspection). Let common sense be your guide as to what maintenance you conduct yourself.
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Old 06-13-2018, 11:49 AM
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I've been told that I can modify the airplane panel, do maintenance on the engine, general maintenance on the airframe.

I've been told, the only need for an A&P is when the annual condition inspection is done.
To the best of my knowledge these statements are correct.

Your having to ask leads me to wonder how new you are to the EXP. world.

Bigger question would be your level of skill/knowledge to do the work on your own.

Just because you can doesnt mean you should.......
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Old 06-13-2018, 12:05 PM
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You can do everything except the condition inspection, that requires an A&P for your case. Approach this cautiously - just because you can, doesn't mean you should - until you have a knowledge level adequate for the task.
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Old 06-13-2018, 12:33 PM
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Yeah, what "they" said .
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Old 06-13-2018, 12:40 PM
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I'm getting conflicting information.
I've purchased an RV6 and did not build the airplane.
I've been told that I can modify the airplane panel, do maintenance on the engine, general maintenance on the airframe.
I've been told, the only need for an A&P is when the annual condition inspection is done.
Am I being led astray?
What is the controlling FAR?
What people have said is true. As far as "controlling FAR", Part 43 lists who can perform maintenance. Since Part 43 does not apply to Experimental Amateur-Built aircraft anyone can do maintenance and/or modifications.
Your operating limitations spell out that the condition inspection must be done IAW Part 43, Appendix D. So Part 43 DOES apply toward that.
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Old 06-13-2018, 01:13 PM
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Members,

Thank you for the verification.

I am indeed new to the experimental world, but not new to mechanical and engine work.

Additionally, I have a ton of EAA experts right here in GTU that have already assisted me in several endeavors.

Wheel pant mod for tire pressure insert.
Assisted in removing bad mag and subsuquent replacement and timing.

VAF never lets me down.
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Old 06-14-2018, 06:45 AM
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Following applies to A&P; similar language applies to Light Sport AMT's [emphasis added]. If that standard is a minimum for full- time professionals, it should also be for E-AB.

14 C.F.R. 65.81 General privileges and limitations.

(a) A certificated mechanic may perform or supervise the maintenance, preventive maintenance or alteration of an aircraft or appliance, or a part thereof, for which he is rated (but excluding major repairs to, and major alterations of, propellers, and any repair to, or alteration of, instruments), and may perform additional duties in accordance with 65.85, 65.87, and 65.95. However, he may not supervise the maintenance, preventive maintenance, or alteration of, or approve and return to service, any aircraft or appliance, or part thereof, for which he is rated unless he has satisfactorily performed the work concerned at an earlier date. If he has not so performed that work at an earlier date, he may show his ability to do it by performing it to the satisfaction of the Administrator or under the direct supervision of a certificated and appropriately rated mechanic, or a certificated repairman, who has had previous experience in the specific operation concerned.

(b) A certificated mechanic may not exercise the privileges of his certificate and rating unless he understands the current instructions of the manufacturer, and the maintenance manuals, for the specific operation concerned.
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