VansAirForceForums  
Home > VansAirForceForums

- POSTING RULES
- Donate yearly (please).
- Advertise in here!

- Today's Posts | Insert Pics


Go Back   VAF Forums > Main > RV General Discussion/News
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1  
Old 06-23-2018, 11:47 AM
scsmith scsmith is offline
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Ashland, OR
Posts: 1,859
Default PIREP on AIRGIZMOS gust locks

I've had an Airgizmos gust lock for about, oh I don't remember exactly, maybe 5 or 6 years. During that time, it has gotten used very rarely. I don't park out on a ramp very often, just when I am visiting somewhere. And of those times, I confess I often don't put the gust lock on. I know that is at my peril, and I'm now pretty consistent about it.

Still, I bet that gust lock has been out in the sun for a total of less than 30 days.

The red webbing that holds the two pieces together has completely disintegrated. I don't know what the material is that they use, but it is not nylon webbing. Maybe polypropylene. Yes, Nylon deteriorates in the sun too, but no where near as fast as this webbing has.

The Airgizmos gust lock is a very nice design. But poor materials choice has made it become non-functional very quickly. Perhaps in the intervening time between when I bought mine and their current production, they have changed materials? I don't know.
__________________
Steve Smith
Aeronautical Engineer
RV-8 N825RV
IO-360 A1A
WW 200RV
"The Magic Carpet"
Hobbs 515 in 9 years (would have flown more this year if not for fire smoke)
also LS-6-15/18 sailplane
VAF donation Dec 2017
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 06-23-2018, 01:48 PM
Plummit's Avatar
Plummit Plummit is offline
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: SoCal
Posts: 701
Default

New straps are only $5.00 from Airgizmos. At 6 years old that is less than $1.00/year.... Compared to the cost of repair from a gust, that seems like a pretty good deal! ;-)

-Marc
__________________
RV-10
N814RV
2018 Donation made!
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 06-23-2018, 01:53 PM
ALagonia ALagonia is offline
 
Join Date: Jul 2017
Posts: 82
Default

I used one on our Britten Norman Islander that lived on a ramp on a small island in the NW Caribbean. The red webbing didn't last at all. On top of that the flip down hold down fixture they use to keep the webbing in place does not hold down tight enough to keep the gust lock in place. What we did was replace the red webbing that came with the gust lock with a real webbing , 1" wide, and tied a knot in the new webbing at the hold down point to keep it from creeping. In heavy winds the unit was useless until we started using the newer webbing with the knot. And on occasion we would come to check the airplane after a frontal passage and would find the gust lock not in its proper place. Moved by the wind, an indication that the control surfaces had been moving. We only used them for the ailerons. In the course of nine years we replaced the units numerous times because the plastic would become brittle and break. Not just crack, but break.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 06-23-2018, 01:58 PM
Schooner69 Schooner69 is offline
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 70
Default

My brother and I have been quite happy with the Anti splat "Ultimate Gust Lock". It's expensive, but locks all three controls from the cockpit...
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 06-23-2018, 02:09 PM
Vlad's Avatar
Vlad Vlad is offline
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: NJ
Posts: 7,439
Default

A pair of larger moving pads and two tie wraps will save you nearly a tank of gas.
__________________
Where is N666BK?

Не имей сто рублей, а имей сто друзей.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 06-23-2018, 02:16 PM
Kyle Boatright Kyle Boatright is offline
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Atlanta, GA
Posts: 3,289
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vlad View Post
A pair of larger moving pads and two tie wraps will save you nearly a tank of gas.
Not sure I follow this...
__________________
Kyle Boatright
Atlanta, GA
2001 RV-6 N46KB
2019(?) RV-10
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 06-23-2018, 02:41 PM
Vlad's Avatar
Vlad Vlad is offline
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: NJ
Posts: 7,439
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kyle Boatright View Post
Not sure I follow this...
Kyle I used this type of furniture pads as aileron locks. Drilled two holes in a pair and zipped together with tiewrap.

__________________
Where is N666BK?

Не имей сто рублей, а имей сто друзей.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 06-23-2018, 03:22 PM
Lenny Iszak's Avatar
Lenny Iszak Lenny Iszak is offline
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Palm City, FL
Posts: 260
Default

A couple of years ago I spoke to the AirGizmos guys at OSH. I complained about the deteriorating webbing issue, and also the plastic locking thingy didn't hold the webbing in place properly. They had me bring the gust locks to his booth and replaced both webbing and the plastic thingy with a slightly redesigned locking mechanism, gratis. All is well since then. They are much easier to install and hold tighter. Give them a call they might just replace yours too, or better yet, bring them to OSH

Lenny
__________________
Lenny Iszak
Palm City, FL
2014 RV-10, N311LZ - 450 hrs
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 06-23-2018, 03:34 PM
Kyle Boatright Kyle Boatright is offline
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Atlanta, GA
Posts: 3,289
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vlad View Post
Kyle I used this type of furniture pads as aileron locks. Drilled two holes in a pair and zipped together with tiewrap.
Makes sense. I read your original post as indicating that system could secure the control systems for rudder, ailerons, and elevator. I couldn't make that work in my mind...
__________________
Kyle Boatright
Atlanta, GA
2001 RV-6 N46KB
2019(?) RV-10
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 06-23-2018, 06:53 PM
scsmith scsmith is offline
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Ashland, OR
Posts: 1,859
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Plummit View Post
New straps are only $5.00 from Airgizmos. At 6 years old that is less than $1.00/year.... Compared to the cost of repair from a gust, that seems like a pretty good deal! ;-)

-Marc
If they were used every weekend, they wouldn't have lasted 6 months! I'm not paying $5 for such c#*p.

I've written Airgizmos to see if they have changed the material. Otherwise, I'll just make my own nylon webbing straps.
__________________
Steve Smith
Aeronautical Engineer
RV-8 N825RV
IO-360 A1A
WW 200RV
"The Magic Carpet"
Hobbs 515 in 9 years (would have flown more this year if not for fire smoke)
also LS-6-15/18 sailplane
VAF donation Dec 2017
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 10:46 PM.


The VAFForums come to you courtesy Delta Romeo, LLC. By viewing and participating in them you agree to build your plane using standardized methods and practices and to fly it safely and in accordance with the laws governing the country you are located in.