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View Poll Results: How important was the existence of VAF in your decision to build an RV.
It was not a factor. 95 43.98%
It was a factor. 26 12.04%
It was a significant factor. 84 38.89%
It was the most important factor. 11 5.09%
Voters: 216. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 12-05-2017, 10:54 PM
Captain Avgas Captain Avgas is offline
 
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Default THIS POLL IS ONLY OPEN TO BUILDERS WHO COMMENCED CONSTRUCTION AFTER JANUARY 2005

THIS POLL IS ONLY OPEN TO BUILDERS WHO COMMENCED CONSTRUCTION AFTER JANUARY 2005

THIS POLL IS ONLY OPEN TO BUILDERS WHO COMMENCED CONSTRUCTION AFTER JANUARY 2005

THIS POLL IS ONLY OPEN TO BUILDERS WHO COMMENCED CONSTRUCTION AFTER JANUARY 2005

This poll has been established to gauge the importance that builders placed on the existence of VansAirforce as a resource when they opted to build their RV.

I set up a similar poll several days ago but I rushed into it and it was logically flawed and I could not amend it. So I deleted that poll.

The problem with the first poll is that I opened it up to both builders and buyers. But it was obvious in hindsight that buyers of completed RVs do not have the same need for technical resources as builders.

So this poll is for BUILDERS ONLY. Additionally it is only for builders who COMMENCED CONSTRUCTION AFTER JANUARY 2005 because that is the date of the inauguration of VansAirforce.net as a web based forum (its current format). It is obviously not relevant to be voting on the influence of VAF forum in the period before it existed !!!

Please vote if you qualify. I am hoping to get a large number of voters so that the outcome can be seen to have substance.

In the end these statistics will probably be of considerable interest to a number of parties, including Vans Aircraft.
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Old 12-06-2017, 07:53 AM
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Default Factor?

I started building before Doug started this web site, yahoo groups too.


Doug’s web site has been a major part of my building Van’s Kits and the Flying Part Too! Flying with and meeting up with other RV people is the best. The calendar and casual post about lunch meetings are very important
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Old 12-06-2017, 08:05 AM
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Slightly different twist. VAF is one of the reasons I chose to build something other than an RV. On balance, VAF is also one of the reasons why I convinced myself I could build rather than buy a flying airplane. VAF is a terrific resource.
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Old 12-06-2017, 08:58 AM
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I voted "not a factor" due to the fact I had already started the RV 10 prior to discovering VAF.

However, VAF saved me many $$$$ and months if not years of build time.
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Old 12-06-2017, 09:10 AM
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Yes, many of us are in the same boat, MIke, as having been part of building long before Doug's site, and even the Internet.

There's no doubt as to the contribution of this site, though, for both new builders, repeat builders, and buyers of AB aircraft. For some of us, it is a place where it is now our turn to contribute, as some did for us a long time ago. (no, they didn't use smoke signals and drums. )

It is rare that I find someone who is building and is NOT aware of this site. The area that does "concern" me is that the 2nd and 3rd owner segment of AB aircraft tend to be unaware of it, as well as other sources of information.

I think everyone who posts an airplane for sale on this website should consider telling the new buyer about it and even making a donation and signing them up, or something like that. No, Doug didn't pay me to say that!

There's a really good chance that a majority of these 10K RV's now flying will be owned by a non-builder in the not-too-distant future, unless we discover the Fountain of Youth.

Vic
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Old 12-06-2017, 01:17 PM
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Default This site is a big deal

Sellers should definitely consider promoting this site to potential buyers. I think it's capable of adding to the sales value of your aircraft.

I'm a third owner, and this site was incredibly useful when searching for and buying my used RV. But it's been even more useful when it comes to maintaining that RV.

I've searched for and bought a used homebuilt once before, and in my experience the range of expertise and info here compares very very favorably to what I've seen for other homebuilts.

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There's no doubt as to the contribution of this site, though, for both new builders, repeat builders, and buyers of AB aircraft.
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It is rare that I find someone who is building and is NOT aware of this site. The area that does "concern" me is that the 2nd and 3rd owner segment of AB aircraft tend to be unaware of it, as well as other sources of information.

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Old 12-06-2017, 10:10 AM
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Initially during the 2 years that I spent trying to decide if/what to build two things were instrumental, the first was looking at and speaking with the builder of an RV 6 who said “whatever you build make sure it is aluminum”, that led to research into Vans aircraft and seeing the factory support evidenced by what the builders were saying and seeing the amount of information that was being shared I decided to do it. As a first time builder of an RV 3 and initially not having other builders close by for advice this was the go to place to help figure stuff out. The RV3 kit and plans is basic but entirely adequate, (I think) however there are times when it really helps and reassures to read a method or see a pic of the very part that you are working on. So thanks to Doug and also an enormous thanks to all the builders of 3’s 4’s and early RV6 who have generously put up their build logs and photos, Paul Dye and Louise, Rob Holmes, Randy Lervold, John Nystrom, Dave Paule among many others from whom I have gleaned and saved pics of pretty much every part of an RV3 build. As my project approaches the 90% / 90% and I progress through panel and fwf no doubt there will be more searching of the forums. Thanks again Doug Reeves for a priceless resource.
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Old 12-06-2017, 10:32 AM
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Exactly what Dan wrote except for a 3 year build.

EDIT: I was qualified to take the poll - got the bug in 2006, started the build in 2007, first flight in 2010.
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Old 12-06-2017, 03:52 PM
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Exactly what Dan wrote except for a 3 year build.
I too voted "not a factor" since I started before VAF, but Dan Checkoway was a major factor on my decision. VAF expanded on it.

Maybe, there should be another option in the poll, "not a factor, started build before VAF"
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Old 12-07-2017, 11:55 AM
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Definitely! I read this forum for almost a year before I decided I want to build and Have been trying to learn as much as possible on here every since. The help and knowledge people are willing to share here is amazing. I try to give a little bit back by sharing my build experience.
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