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Old 09-19-2018, 10:16 PM
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Tommy123, I think you might find it impossible to jump out considering the RV-12’s tilt up canopy.
You’d be surprised what you could do when death is imminent. It would be somewhat easier to install a canopy jettison like on the -7 tip ups have than a BRS system.
BTW I opened a C-172 door fully in flight and held it open for my friend who was following me out. He took his time getting positioned.
Then there’s always a canopy cracker. If you’re attempting to make your airplane 100%, no way you’re ever going to get hurt, no matter what, good luck with that. Better to spend your time at a amusement park, but they’ve had fatalities too.
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Old 09-20-2018, 12:51 AM
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Someone posted that they are looking forward to flying with their 5-year-old son.........
The slow stall speed (47mph) and light weight (740 lbs empty) make the RV-12 very survivable in an off-field landing. The 5-point safety belt will support and contain you as the remaining energy is dissipated.

“If you're faced with a forced landing, fly the thing as far into the crash as possible.” — Bob Hoover.

I’ll take Bob Hoover’s advice any day…
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Old 09-20-2018, 03:15 AM
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The slow stall speed (47mph) and light weight (740 lbs empty) make the RV-12 very survivable in an off-field landing. The 5-point safety belt will support and contain you as the remaining energy is dissipated.
You are right. The RV-12 has an excellent record and it is my belief it is the best kit plane in the 1320lbs class. That is why I am building one.

On the other hand side, the plane I fly now and built the last 14 months, is a Savannah (something like the CH750cruiser) It has a stall speed around 30mph and full aileron control at low speeds. So there is even less need for a chute. But you know what... it has a BRS system and would not want it any other way. Am I an unskilled or careless pilot, by deciding to have a chute? Well at least I am not an experienced pilot with my 90 hour. Maybe once I reach 1000 hours, I will have a completely different view. But for now I want one. I know a Greek pilot who also built a Savannah some years ago. I dont know for sure, but I think he did a good job building, but he made one little mistake. He forgot one little cotter pin. The plane had a great maiden flight and he did some more short flights this day. Everything went just great until he suddenly lost elevator control. Two people where falling to crash into rocky territory and their sure death. But when he built, his wife begged him that he installed a rescue system. He did her the favor and the plane landed safely on a chute and with very little damage. Did he make a mistake...YES.... did he deserve to die or should he be allowed to learn from his mistakes? Who can honestly say, he never made a mistake?
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Old 09-20-2018, 07:51 PM
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Yep, the 12, like the Cub can just barely kill you.😁
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