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Old 02-10-2020, 06:27 PM
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Default New engine from Vashon/Dynon founder

What do you guys think of the new engine that John Torode has going at EPI?

Any RV potential? Maybe RV-12 or super efficient RV-9?

http://www.epi-eng.com/aircraft_engi...aft_engine.htm

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Old 02-10-2020, 07:38 PM
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I like the idea of a turbo charged version they had planned for this engine.
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Old 02-11-2020, 08:59 AM
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It looks interesting. I'm always hopeful that someone comes along with a better mouse trap. However, it looks a lot like a UL Power UL350iS, which is 123 hp at 2800 rpm continuous (130hp at 3000 5 minute limit) and 160 pounds, plus 13 pounds of airframe mounted accessories and already has EFII with FADEC.
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Old 02-11-2020, 09:29 AM
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It looks interesting. I'm always hopeful that someone comes along with a better mouse trap. However, it looks a lot like a UL Power UL350iS, which is 123 hp at 2800 rpm continuous (130hp at 3000 5 minute limit) and 160 pounds, plus 13 pounds of airframe mounted accessories and already has EFII with FADEC.
Both of which are preferable to the current 100hp offering, with modern features. So that would put two vendors competing for that market - which is exactly where we are today (Lycoming/Continental) but with a better engine. If that's the case, I'll take it - it's still good forward progress. Couple more of those and you'll have a first down.
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Old 02-12-2020, 09:35 AM
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With all due respect, have you priced a UL Power engine in "ready to fly" condition? In the case of this new engine, the price point will, if they hit their targets, be a strong motivating force in the market.

The last time I priced a new O-200 it was north of USD$24K. If this engine comes in even at USD$16K it will have a significant advantage.
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Old 02-12-2020, 11:23 AM
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If the pricing target is true, it will be a great powerplant option for the SLSAs that now use the Rotax engine. The price of the Rotax is approaching the higher cu inch traditional 100LL aircraft engines.
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Old 02-12-2020, 01:23 PM
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If the pricing target is true, it will be a great powerplant option for the SLSAs that now use the Rotax engine. The price of the Rotax is approaching the higher cu inch traditional 100LL aircraft engines.
Maybe...... will depend on the airplane it is intended for.

Their final goal weight is still a bit higher (15-20 lbs) than the fully installed weight of a Rotax 912. Not huge, but a factor that would have to be considered in many airplanes. And that is assuming that the claimed weight is with an exhaust and other required accessories. If it is not (pretty common), then the weight delta would be even wider.

Even then I think could be a game changer if they are eventually able to deliver an engine at about $12K
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Old 02-12-2020, 03:02 PM
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Default $14-15,000

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-HR...ature=youtu.be

In the comments, a target price of $14-15,000 was mentioned one month ago.
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Old 02-12-2020, 03:19 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-HR...ature=youtu.be

In the comments, a target price of $14-15,000 was mentioned one month ago.
The cost quote I remembered from the video was "less than half the current cost of a Cont. O-200, which I think is currently around $24K (the reason I wrote 12K)
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Old 02-12-2020, 03:34 PM
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Default Lot's of good info in general

I never took a close look at the EPI website before yesterday. In addition to the engine that the OP referenced, there is a ton of good information on internal combustion engine design and theory.

I don't want to start a politcal discussion on this forum, but there is a very interesting write-up on energy technology under the "What's new" tab. Check out the topic "contemporay energy mythology".
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