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Old 01-11-2020, 07:43 AM
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Default Six cylinder pMag now shipping

All,

Brad has shipped me the final production version of the new six cylinder pMag. Iíll remove the beta version he sent me and install this one.

Iíll let you know how it works. I can say the install is as simple as the four cylinder pMags, and provides options to set the advance to what you want. It also supports a switch on the panel to set timing at your base number (typically 25 degrees for a parallel valve engine) at anytime - including while the engine is running.

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Old 01-11-2020, 07:50 AM
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Wow! - That's great - only 7 years late .......
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Old 01-11-2020, 08:18 AM
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Wow! - That's great - only 7 years late .......
It is much better for them to shop late than ship a faulty ignition.

I think those of us who lived through the teething problems with the four cylinder P-mags will agree.
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Old 01-11-2020, 08:37 AM
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It is much better for them to shop late than ship a faulty ignition.

I think those of us who lived through the teething problems with the four cylinder P-mags will agree.
That may be true, but I struggle to have respect for someone that is so disconnected from the reality of their own companies abilities, priorities, schedule, etc. Continually promising and extending an availability date for 7 years exposes real issues for a commercial operation. Understandable if building a nuclear powerplant, but not for a simple ignition device. It is quite possible that he fully understood the limitations and challenges and simply kicked the can and lied for 7 years. Equally large of a problem if that was the case. Most quality business professionals understand their abilities and limitations and plan their projections accordingly. When their wrong, they typically fess up and admit it.

The teething issue is no consolation. I also don't respect a company that will release a product so far from a stable state that it takes 5 years of continual changes to get it right. This I can accept though, given that it was the early days for this type of product/application and undertaken by a new and small company trying to introduce advanced technology in our arena. I don't extend that pass to the their next generation product though. By that time, they should know better. If they know that it takes 7 years to make the product stable and don't want to do that in the field with their customers (a wise decision), they should promise accordingly.

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Old 01-11-2020, 08:49 AM
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Wow! - That's great - only 7 years late .......
More like 9 years--------I held the supposed production unit at OSH 2011.

Anyway--congrats on getting it out at last.
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Old 01-11-2020, 09:12 AM
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I think those of us who lived through the teething problems with the four cylinder P-mags will agree.
Yup! Very happy to have survived some of them .
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Old 01-11-2020, 09:48 AM
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Keep in mind the six cylinder pMag was developed with the certified market in mind. This, as I understand it, drove a lot of the delay.

As we know, the only other option for an ignition system that runs on its own power is a 1930 technology magneto. I choose pMag - and have close to 1000 trouble free hours running a dual install in an RV-8A.

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Old 01-11-2020, 01:19 PM
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Cool it’s finally released. I’m at approx 200 hrs on dual Slicks. I’m looking forward to some others putting the hours on these before I need to make a decision when (I’m told it’s not really “if”) the Slicks start acting up.
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Old 01-11-2020, 02:02 PM
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Default Surefly Mags as opposed to PMags ?

Haven't noticed any mention of the SureFly Sim 6 Mags in this thread? We are running the SIM 6 on my (RV10) IO-540 for about 50 hours now and Love it! Starts quick with advancing help from Manifold Pressure monitoring and leans out nicely to 9.5 GPH at 9500ft, Although we prefer to set the fuel burn rate to 11 GPH for cooling purposes, and too often I forget to richen the mixture when decreasing altitude. The stumbles always remind me , I am not affiliated with SureFly but if Lycoming considers re-branding them, then that seems to be a good enough endorsement to me.
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Old 01-11-2020, 02:10 PM
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Haven't noticed any mention of the SureFly Sim 6 Mags in this thread?
And why should there be any mention of them--------this is a thread about the release of the Pmag. It is not a comparison of various brands.
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