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Old 02-11-2016, 06:54 AM
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These Transponders look great, I have a few questions:

1) Am I correct thinking that a GTX 345 (with integrated WAAS/GPS) could replace a GTX 330 ES, a GDL 39, and a GPS 20A?

2) When compatible with a G3X Touch (currently estimated Q3 2016,) could the GTX 345 be hardwired to both a PFD and a MFD or will one display need to be bluetooth connected the way a GDL 39 is now?

3) When your website reads, "Compatibility is extended to the G3X Touch glass flight display and is expected in Q3 2016" does this refer to its full ADS-B IN functionality, i.e. replacing a GDL 39 or would the ADS-B OUT not work before then either? My question is: Could one buy a GTX 345 now to replace a GTX 330 ES to give a G3X Touch panel a FAA 2020 WAAS position source and then when "compatibility is extended" this autumn get rid of the GDL 39 and use the GTX 345 for both IN and OUT ADS-B?

Right now I'm facing having to buy a GPS 20A to make my ADS-B OUT work again because, on January 6th 2016, the FAA stopped accepting my G3X Touch's GPS signal as an approved ADS-B WAAS Source. I'd rather not buy the GPS 20A if I'm going to eliminate it again by the end of the year.

Thanks for your help,
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Hello Craig,

Good questions.

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1) Am I correct thinking that a GTX 345 (with integrated WAAS/GPS) could replace a GTX 330 ES, a GDL 39, and a GPS 20A?
The base 010-01216-01 GTX 345 1090ES ADS-B Out transponder comes standard with built-in dual frequency ADS-B receiver, attitude sensors, and Bluetooth interface. All that is needed with this unit to complete the ADS-B In/Out capability is an external FAR 91.227 compliant position source like the GTN 6XX/7XX, GNS 4XXW/5XXW or the GPS 20A.

The 010-01216-41 GTX 345 w/GPS model is the same as the base model, but adds a built-in FAR 91.227 compliant position source. This model does actually perform all the functions of the GTX 330ES/GDL 39 3D/GPS 20A in one box.

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2) When compatible with a G3X Touch (currently estimated Q3 2016,) could the GTX 345 be hardwired to both a PFD and a MFD or will one display need to be bluetooth connected the way a GDL 39 is now?
Yes, when the G3X Touch software changes are complete (which are quite extensive), the GTX 345 may be hardwired to your GSU 25 for data and control, and to both the PFD and MFD for a direct feed of ADS-B traffic and weather to these displays.

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3) When your website reads, "Compatibility is extended to the G3X Touch glass flight display and is expected in Q3 2016" does this refer to its full ADS-B IN functionality, i.e. replacing a GDL 39 or would the ADS-B OUT not work before then either? My question is: Could one buy a GTX 345 now to replace a GTX 330 ES to give a G3X Touch panel a FAA 2020 WAAS position source and then when "compatibility is extended" this autumn get rid of the GDL 39 and use the GTX 345 for both IN and OUT ADS-B?
There is no support to buy a GTX 345 now and replace a GTX 330ES and/or GDL 39 in a G3X Touch system. You will need to wait until the complete development/testing is finished and new system software is released which supports this new device.

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Right now I'm facing having to buy a GPS 20A to make my ADS-B OUT work again because, on January 6th 2016, the FAA stopped accepting my G3X Touch's GPS signal as an approved ADS-B WAAS Source. I'd rather not buy the GPS 20A if I'm going to eliminate it again by the end of the year.
Since you now have all of the components needed for full ADS-B In/Out except for the GPS 20A, you could hardly go wrong by buying the GPS 20A now and be done. It's entirely up to you if you prefer to have a GTX 345 w/GPS with everything in one box.

The part numbers listed above are for the panel mount GTX 345 and GTX 345 w/GPS, but there are also remote mount versions of these transponders which may be remotely mounted and controlled (when software development is complete).

Thanks,
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Old 02-11-2016, 07:45 AM
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Nice one Steve
So in my case (hardwired 796, GDL39 3D, GTX-327 etc) all I would have to do is replace the 327 with the 010-01216-41 GTX 345 w/GPS and connect to my RS232 daisy chain, remove the GDL39 and I would be good to go for 2020?

Couple of quick questions:
1. Will the existing transponder antenna and cable be OK or will they have to be replaced.
2. I assume the 345 will provide the GPS position to both the 796 and the iPad a la the GDL 39
2. As you are modifying/updating the 796 software dont forget about some of the other punchlist/desires that us 796 owners have discussed with you in the past

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Old 02-11-2016, 08:46 AM
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Question for Garmin Experts.

My RV-8 is equipped with a Garmin 430 W Navigator, Garmin GTX 327 Transponder, and an AFS 4500 EFIS.

I want to become ADS-B 2020 compliant and have been saving up to buy and install a Garmin GTX 330ES for that reason.

If I pulled the Garmin 327 and installed the base 010-01216-01 GTX 345 1090ES ADS-B Out transponder standard with built-in dual frequency ADS-B receiver, attitude sensors, and Bluetooth interface and got the latest update on my Garmin 430 W...

1. Could I connect my Ipad with Foreflight or Garmin Pilot using the GTX 345 Bluetooth interface to receive ADS-B in traffic, WX? or do I need Connext to accomplish that?

2. Will I be able to see traffic on the screen of my Garmin 430 W?

3. Will my existing Garmin GTX 327 antenna and coax cable likely work with the GTX 345?

I like the all in one integration in this Garmin 345 offering and it is priced less than a Garmin GTX 330ES.

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Old 02-11-2016, 08:56 AM
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Well this thread is really starting to fire on all 4 cylinders. G3x guys is it to early to release the owner manual and the installation manual for the new transponders?
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Old 02-11-2016, 10:05 AM
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I have a garmin 320 transponder. Will the garmin 335 tray fit the height and width of that tray? I understand that it is a little over an inch deeper.
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Old 02-11-2016, 10:53 AM
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Hello Craig,

Good questions.



The base 010-01216-01 GTX 345 1090ES ADS-B Out transponder comes standard with built-in dual frequency ADS-B receiver, attitude sensors, and Bluetooth interface. All that is needed with this unit to complete the ADS-B In/Out capability is an external FAR 91.227 compliant position source like the GTN 6XX/7XX, GNS 4XXW/5XXW or the GPS 20A.

The 010-01216-41 GTX 345 w/GPS model is the same as the base model, but adds a built-in FAR 91.227 compliant position source. This model does actually perform all the functions of the GTX 330ES/GDL 39 3D/GPS 20A in one box.



Yes, when the G3X Touch software changes are complete (which are quite extensive), the GTX 345 may be hardwired to your GSU 25 for data and control, and to both the PFD and MFD for a direct feed of ADS-B traffic and weather to these displays.


There is no support to buy a GTX 345 now and replace a GTX 330ES and/or GDL 39 in a G3X Touch system. You will need to wait until the complete development/testing is finished and new system software is released which supports this new device.



Since you now have all of the components needed for full ADS-B In/Out except for the GPS 20A, you could hardly go wrong by buying the GPS 20A now and be done. It's entirely up to you if you prefer to have a GTX 345 w/GPS with everything in one box.

The part numbers listed above are for the panel mount GTX 345 and GTX 345 w/GPS, but there are also remote mount versions of these transponders which may be remotely mounted and controlled (when software development is complete).

Thanks,
Steve
Thanks for the answers Steve. I'm going ahead with the GPS 20A for now and will revisit the GTX 345 when it's working with G3X Touch systems.
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Old 02-11-2016, 11:15 AM
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Nice one Steve
So in my case (hardwired 796, GDL39 3D, GTX-327 etc) all I would have to do is replace the 327 with the 010-01216-41 GTX 345 w/GPS and connect to my RS232 daisy chain, remove the GDL39 and I would be good to go for 2020?

Couple of quick questions:
1. Will the existing transponder antenna and cable be OK or will they have to be replaced.
2. I assume the 345 will provide the GPS position to both the 796 and the iPad a la the GDL 39
3. As you are modifying/updating the 796 software dont forget about some of the other punchlist/desires that us 796 owners have discussed with you in the past

Figs
Hello Dave,

It is always good to hear from our neighbors down in Oklahoma.

A couple of posters (who should know better) have commented that these transponders are only for certified aircraft, but as in the case of your RV-7 with an Aera 796, we know that isn't true.

Yes, you are correct that the GTX 345 with GPS can be an all-in-one solution for ADS-B In/Out which even replaces the GDL 39 if you want it to. There is even a built-in altitude encoder option (011-03080-00) you can add for $195 if you don't otherwise have this available.

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1. Will the existing transponder antenna and cable be OK or will they have to be replaced.
Your existing transponder antenna will probably work, but there is a list of compatible antennas in the installation manual, so if you shoot us an email with information on your antenna, we can check.

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2. I assume the 345 will provide the GPS position to both the 796 and the iPad a la the GDL 39.
Your GDL39 doesn't actually provide GPS information to the 796. Quite the contrary - the 796 is the GPS rock star and provides this information to the GDL39 which then shares it with a mobile device if needed. Similarly, the GTX 345 does not provide GPS data to the 796.

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3. As you are modifying/updating the 796 software dont forget about some of the other punchlist/desires that us 796 owners have discussed with you in the past
Message received. As you can see, we didn't forget about the 796 when the opportunity arose to give it new capabilities to be a great ADS-B traffic and weather display for these new transponders. We are just a little team in a little market, but we do our best.

Thanks,
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Old 02-11-2016, 12:48 PM
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Question for Garmin Experts.

My RV-8 is equipped with a Garmin 430 W Navigator, Garmin GTX 327 Transponder, and an AFS 4500 EFIS.

I want to become ADS-B 2020 compliant and have been saving up to buy and install a Garmin GTX 330ES for that reason.

If I pulled the Garmin 327 and installed the base 010-01216-01 GTX 345 1090ES ADS-B Out transponder standard with built-in dual frequency ADS-B receiver, attitude sensors, and Bluetooth interface and got the latest update on my Garmin 430 W...

1. Could I connect my Ipad with Foreflight or Garmin Pilot using the GTX 345 Bluetooth interface to receive ADS-B in traffic, WX? or do I need Connext to accomplish that?

2. Will I be able to see traffic on the screen of my Garmin 430 W?

3. Will my existing Garmin GTX 327 antenna and coax cable likely work with the GTX 345?

I like the all in one integration in this Garmin 345 offering and it is priced less than a Garmin GTX 330ES.

Thank you,
Hello Charlie,

Thank you for your interest in this product.

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1. Could I connect my Ipad with Foreflight or Garmin Pilot using the GTX 345 Bluetooth interface to receive ADS-B in traffic, WX? or do I need Connext to accomplish that?
We appreciate that this "Connext" stuff can be confusing. Both the hardwire and Bluetooth interfaces in the GTX 345 speak Connext protocol, so no, you don't need a FlightStream 110/210 or anything else to directly connect a mobile device running Garmin Pilot or Foreflight to be able to receive and display traffic, weather, and attitude data from the GTX 345.

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2. Will I be able to see traffic on the screen of my Garmin 430 W?
Yes, as shown on the "Display Compatibility" page of the GTX 345 web page, the 430W is able to interface to the GTX 345 and display the traffic and weather shown on that web page.

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3. Will my existing Garmin GTX 327 antenna and coax cable likely work with the GTX 345?
Your existing transponder antenna will probably work, but there is a list of compatible antennas in the installation manual, so if you shoot us an email with information on your antenna, we can check.

Thanks,
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Old 02-11-2016, 12:52 PM
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Well this thread is really starting to fire on all 4 cylinders. G3x guys is it to early to release the owner manual and the installation manual for the new transponders?
Hello John,

Sorry, but these manuals are not released yet. Shouldn't be long.

Thanks,
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Hello Dave,

It is always good to hear from our neighbors down in Oklahoma.

Yes, you are correct that the GTX 345 with GPS can be an all-in-one solution for ADS-B In/Out which even replaces the GDL 39 if you want it to. There is even a built-in altitude encoder option (011-03080-00) you can add for $195 if you don't otherwise have this available.


Your GDL39 doesn't actually provide GPS information to the 796. Quite the contrary - the 796 is the GPS rock star and provides this information to the GDL39 which then shares it with a mobile device if needed. Similarly, the GTX 345 does not provide GPS data to the 796.


Message received. As you can see, we didn't forget about the 796 when the opportunity arose to give it new capabilities to be a great ADS-B traffic and weather display for these new transponders. We are just a little team in a little market, but we do our best.

Thanks,
Steve
Well hello Steve from another Okie down south. In addition to Figg's questions about the 796, I have a similar situation but ever so slightly different. In my case, instead of running the 796 I am running a 695 that is hardwired to a GDL39. The GDL39 is feeding the 695 ADS-B In data in addition to feeding, via Bluetooth, that information to my Ipad. The 695 is feeding the GPS data to everything else in my panel. My big dilemma with 2020 compliance is getting a certified WAAS signal in my panel.
  • Am I correct in that the 345 will provide the necessary certifiable navigation WAAS GPS signal the FAA requires for 2020 compliance?
  • Will the 345 feed all ADS-B WX and Traffic information to the 695 and the Ipad? If so, will I be able to use the exisiting hard wire connections I have in place or will I be required to change out the existing hard wiring for something else?
  • Will the 345 feed all ADS-B In data (WX and Traffic) to Foreflight?
  • There has been talk on here about legal navigation using a certified navigation instrument in order to comply with legal IFR filing. Could you expound upon the concept of the prospect of having a unit such as these new 'all-in-one' units providing that capability? Is this an unrealistic expectation, or is this a realistic possibility?
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