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Old 03-10-2019, 09:28 AM
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Detroit city airport or pontiac michigan are good. Have done both dozens of times with good results. Just remember do not exit plane before they come out to you or they get all crazy and you are in for serious attitude. They will walk around your plane with geigercounter or whatever its called scanning for nuclear signature. Fast and easy.

Funny 95% of US airports you better not get out....but in Fort Pierce florida, you sit in your plane for 30 minutes......they dont come out and the fuel guy finally comes over and says....you have to get out and go in.... funny but not so much. A simple sign or an agent just stepping out of the door and waving to you would be nice.
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Old 03-10-2019, 08:53 PM
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I would suggest that you avoid Williston KISN. I cleared there last year on way to SnF and got charged ramp fee from FBO despite filling up with more than 75 gallons of fuel. Good thing was it was a Saturday and they have a weekend discount!
Going to try and clear in Minot KMOT this year and hopefully have better experience.
Just a side note....I have cleared at Great Falls,MT KGTF over 10 times and never a issue in case you wanted make a nice easy 2 hour flight and have the customs experience behind you.
If you want to chat more Im over here in Rocky Mountain House CYRM
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Old 03-11-2019, 05:55 PM
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Must be something new at Williston, or they were having a bad day. Iíve cleared there many times, customs agents always friendly there. But I donít usually pick up fuel there, too expensive. I find most ports of entry airports fuel pricing higher than airstrips near by so usually clear there, than hop over to the next airport enroute & fill up. One time fuel cost difference worked out to near $40 for a fill up, so was well worth adding 20 minutes to my travel time. Check the fuel pricing websites before flight planning, a small diversion could make a big difference.
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Old 03-11-2019, 08:04 PM
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Must be something new at Williston, or they were having a bad day. Iíve cleared there many times, customs agents always friendly there. But I donít usually pick up fuel there, too expensive. I find most ports of entry airports fuel pricing higher than airstrips near by so usually clear there, than hop over to the next airport enroute & fill up. One time fuel cost difference worked out to near $40 for a fill up, so was well worth adding 20 minutes to my travel time. Check the fuel pricing websites before flight planning, a small diversion could make a big difference.
Yes Customs was Ok. He must of been lonely & wanted to visit too long 😬
Yes the fees came from the FBO. Crazy. I fueled up but didnít use any services,not even the washroom, & they charged me $35. Doesnít make sense when I bought fuel. When I questioned it they said i was getting the cheaper weekend rate. What a scam
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Old 03-12-2019, 10:43 AM
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My trip is officially deferred now, the weather east of the Great Lakes just doesn't excite me. I saw the fuel prices at KISN and already planned to not fuel there. I was just going to hop east another 45 minutes and fill up at Garrison, ND. I do understand that the custom reporting point at KISN is on the Signature ramp, but I wouldn't get any services from them.

I will be taking a trip next week just because it would be a shame not to go anywhere on my vacation days. Not sure where I'm going, but it will probably be south via Great Falls and remaining east of the cumulus granite.

Wayne, we met a couple of years back on the Skywings ramp in Red Deer. I was admiring your 7. I think you had brought a nephew up for some flight training. I've done a couple of touch and gos at YRM, great place to fly.
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Old 03-13-2019, 07:50 AM
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You have a great memory Claude. Yes I remember meeting you as well now that you have put it in context.
Just an idea for your vacation flight.....after clearing customs at Great Falls or Helena, head south thru St.George,UT or Cedar City then make a short 1 hour flight over the Grand Canyon & land at Sedona (SEZ). Great restaurant at Sedona & good fuel prices. Spectacular scenery
Just a thought.
If you need more info on that area email me.
Fly safe & enjoy
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Old 03-13-2019, 11:14 AM
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Grand Canyon and Sedona are on my must do list, but I'm not quite ready to tackle the mountains. I'm looking at taking a mountain orientation course with Bluegoose Aviation in Montana in May to get that experience. Until then, I'll fly over (solo - only have 1 place O2), but not through.

My current planned trip is down to Denver along the east side of the Rockies, returning a little further east, flying by Badlands, Mount Rushmore, and Devils Tower. Should be good and scenic.

Anyone with "must see" stops/flybys along that route? I think we'll check out the Denver Air and Space museum, but nothing else planned.
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Old 03-16-2019, 06:28 PM
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Claude
... donít forget to apply for the annual border sticker from DTOPS...
Cheers
I am planning a trip from the lower 48 to Alaska in June. I have my 2 FCC licenses and starting to learn about eapis etc. but what is this about a border sticker?
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Old 03-16-2019, 06:39 PM
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You don't need the decal, it's just an annual entry user fee for entering the US. However, it's the same (or nearly the same) price as a single entry. You order the decal through CBP's DTOPS website, but order early. I ordered 3-1/2 weeks ago, paid for express shipping and still haven't seen mine. I'm counting on the receipt (which says "not a receipt") to prove that I ordered the decal to make it so I don't have to pay the entry fee. Of course if I get the decal on Monday, before I leave on Tuesday, I can use it.

I'm not aware of anything similar required for entering Canada, but if you are stopping in Canada on the way up, I'm sure you'll need to cover the US entry fee when you re-enter in Alaska.
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Old 03-16-2019, 07:30 PM
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Thanks Claude. That is very helpful. I found the website. I'll check out the cost.
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