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Old 03-11-2019, 07:36 PM
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You can take a stirring straw - you know the small diameter? Take a piece of thin tape, and tape it about 1/2" from the TE on the underside of the light aileron midspan. Try the full 6" at first. That should provide some help. If so, then begin using a wedge in its place.
Crazy that something the size of a stirring straw could have an affect. If I do end up needing a wedge (Which I would rather do than remounting the aileron hinge point), where have most people sourced these from?
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Old 03-11-2019, 10:38 PM
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Just a shot in the dark here but is it possible that the rudder isn't rigged correctly? I have no experience to back up my thought here so take it for what cost you = <1Cent.
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Old 03-12-2019, 08:33 AM
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Crazy that something the size of a stirring straw could have an affect. If I do end up needing a wedge (Which I would rather do than remounting the aileron hinge point), where have most people sourced these from?
I used a small balsa piece that was pre-shaped into an aileron shape from the hobby store. Once sized, I put a coat of paint to seal it and then used silicone to adhere to the rudder and the under side of the aileron on my 6.

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Old 03-12-2019, 11:44 AM
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If I do end up needing a wedge (Which I would rather do than remounting the aileron hinge point), where have most people sourced these from?
Old Avery part, now sold by Cleaveland Tools:

http://www.cleavelandtool.com/RUDDER...ductinfo/9883/
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Old 03-12-2019, 05:15 PM
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Old Avery part, now sold by Cleaveland Tools:

http://www.cleavelandtool.com/RUDDER...ductinfo/9883/
So that’s for a rudder, would something like that work for an aileron too?

Crappy weather so still haven’t flown. Also with my rerig my wingtips are only about 1/8” off or so. So at this point might not be worth the hassle to split them for cosmetic stuff
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Old 03-12-2019, 05:40 PM
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So that’s for a rudder, would something like that work for an aileron too?
Don't see why not. No one makes different ones for rudders and ailerons, to my knowledge. First developed to get the ball centered in cruise flight, hence the rudder application. Folks usually are able to fix the heavy wing issue by following Van's guidance, but if you want/need a wedge, that one should work when its length is adjusted by flight test. Your aileron will never know its wearing a "rudder" part, if you don't tell it!
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Old 03-12-2019, 09:46 PM
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So that’s for a rudder, would something like that work for an aileron too?

Crappy weather so still haven’t flown. Also with my rerig my wingtips are only about 1/8” off or so. So at this point might not be worth the hassle to split them for cosmetic stuff
Rudders and ailerons and aerodynamically equivalent, they just operate on different axis'

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Old 03-12-2019, 11:38 PM
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Any explanation for why rotating the gear leg fairings clockwise viewed from above wouldn't cause the plane to bank to the left (and also yaw left) even more? I'm having a hard time imagining that this brings about the effect needed to correct a left roll and left yaw. What's the aerodynamic explanation?
Bill my view is that the gear fairings are acting like small rudders ahead of the center of pressure. So they act in reverse. Please note that I have said that you should fix yaw first as in getting the ball in the center before moving on to fix the roll problem.
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Old 03-16-2019, 03:34 PM
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Just to close out the thread. I've put on 7 or so hours of flying since I made all my adjustments. I STILL have heavy wing, however it seems to be better since AP can now handle turning right with no issues (used to have to help it some at 100% torque, now I have it at 80% and it's fine.)

I flew the other day and got to 5 gallons remaining on the left tank, right tank was full with 30 gallons. Even then I still had a slightly heavy left wing.

I'll keep fiddling with it but I guess not planning on splitting the wing anymore.
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