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Old 04-06-2018, 10:17 PM
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Default TKS wing Deice

Has anyone installed a TKS wing deice system on an RV10?
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Old 04-07-2018, 11:40 AM
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Going to be difficult with the leading edge fuel tanks.
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Old 04-07-2018, 01:09 PM
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Seems like it would be doable...BUT

At what cost?

The stem for the Cirrus aircraft would be comparable to what the -10 would need. The EMPTY weight of the system is 60 lbs. The weight of the system with fluid is 134 lbs.

There is no price listed for the system, so I would expect it to be $$$$$.

The TKS fluid is expensive...$542 for 30 gallons. the system holds 8.

The TKS wing system alone will not give you flight into known icing, you would need prop heat and a windshield deice as well...more $$$$$

So I guess it would be a possibility but even if you were to spend the considerable cash to install the system, one question still remains:

Do you REALLY want to be flying a light single engine airplane in those kind of meteorological conditions?
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Old 04-07-2018, 01:35 PM
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I seem to recall someone developed an electrical wing deicing system for the 10 which eliminates the issues with TKS. However, I agree that its not really something that Id recommend pursuing.
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Old 04-07-2018, 02:27 PM
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RDD using a graphite foil laminate for electric airframe deice.

Much lighter than TKS and doesn't require fluid. There are pros/cons to every type of system.
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Old 05-12-2018, 06:44 AM
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RDD using a graphite foil laminate for electric airframe deice.

Much lighter than TKS and doesn't require fluid. There are pros/cons to every type of system.
Lighter except for the hundred-amp alternator they add to your plane to run it but it does seem to be a nice product otherwise.
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Old 05-12-2018, 02:10 PM
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RDD using a graphite foil laminate for electric airframe deice.

Much lighter than TKS and doesn't require fluid. There are pros/cons to every type of system.
Wouldn't you have to add it to the wings, HS, and VS as well as do something for the Prop and Windscreen?
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Old 05-12-2018, 04:05 PM
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If I had a choice between a weeping wing or an electric wing I would take electric wing every day of the week and twice on Sunday.

Weeping wings do work but there are several problems.
1. Keeping the emitter panels clean. If you don't keep the panels clean during the good weather then they get all blocked up and don't work particularly well in the winter when you need them. The laser drilled panels seem to be less susceptible than the larger mesh but they still clog up with bug guts.
2. You have a finite amount of protection. Once you have used the fluid you are done.
3. Finding fluid on the road. Some FBOs have it, most don't.
4. Corrosion. While the fluid itself is not corrosive, it is a fluid never the less and it will support corrosion. Nearly all metal aircraft with weeping wings have issues with corrosion aft of the panels.
5. Pre-use need. The TKS system is an anti-ice system. It isn't very good at de-ice. It will prevent ice from building but won't readily remove ice that has already accumulated. What that means is, you need to have it on and running before you encounter icing conditions.
6. Dripping wings. Lost count the number of times I forgot and brushed up against a wet wing after landing and smeared TKS all over my uniform.
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Old 05-12-2018, 07:29 PM
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Default RDD no longer selling the de-ice system?

I have been searching on the internet and it appears that RDD may no longer be selling the de-ice system. It is not on their webpage that I can find.

http://www.rddent.com/
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Old 05-13-2018, 01:42 AM
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I have been searching on the internet and it appears that RDD may no longer be selling the de-ice system. It is not on their webpage that I can find.

http://www.rddent.com/
I still see this on their website:
http://www.rddent.com/therm-xtrade.html

Related prior thread:
http://www.vansairforce.com/communit...ad.php?t=44144
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