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Old 05-09-2018, 11:00 PM
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The guy two Hanger's down for me says he chose parts and did not send in a bill of sale with the registration form . And, at his air worthiness inspection including a DAR and an FAA from the MIDO asked why he chose parts on the registration form. He said he didn't answer just smiled. Then they answered for him. "You probably did it to avoid taxes". Long pause. Then they smiled and said. "Don't worry, you got it registered. Registration or paying taxes is not our department.
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Old 05-10-2018, 06:51 AM
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Default PA sales tax

In PA there is no sales tax on aircraft parts. 6%, or more, on aircraft.
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Old 05-10-2018, 07:01 AM
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Default Airframe parts kits

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In PA there is no sales tax on aircraft parts. 6%, or more, on aircraft.
Parts for airframe in KIT form as sold by Vans is taxable in PA. As I was told by the very nice people in the aviation department of the state tax bureau in harrisburg. When I registered my tail number the sent a notice of tax owed because they thought it was an air worthy aircraft sale. I informed them it was a kit that is still being constructed and I just registered the number early.
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Old 05-10-2018, 07:51 AM
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The guy two Hanger's down for me says he chose parts and did not send in a bill of sale with the registration form . And, at his air worthiness inspection including a DAR and an FAA from the MIDO asked why he chose parts on the registration form. He said he didn't answer just smiled. Then they answered for him. "You probably did it to avoid taxes". Long pause. Then they smiled and said. "Don't worry, you got it registered. Registration or paying taxes is not our department.
When you say he chose parts instead of bill of sale what do you mean by that.
What form was used to select parts in lieu of a bill of sale. I donít see that choice on the 8050-1 form
Iím getting ready to register and am interested in how that was done
Am I missing something?
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Old 05-10-2018, 08:30 AM
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When you say he chose parts instead of bill of sale what do you mean by that.
What form was used to select parts in lieu of a bill of sale. I donít see that choice on the 8050-1 form
Iím getting ready to register and am interested in how that was done
Am I missing something?
Thanks
Steve it is the 8050-88 form, shown on page 13 of EAA's document for registering your experimental aircraft. See what you think. I'm inclined to use it and select parts for reasons above.
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Old 05-10-2018, 09:55 AM
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Yep
I actually called the FAA, since I had a couple other questions, too.
If you used more than 50% misc parts to build, you can check that box.
In my case, I did buy some kit parts from VANs, but most of the parts were bought from builders who didn't end up building. According to the FAA, this is considered Misc parts.
So, in this event, you can use the 8050-88 form instead of providing a bill of sale.
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Old 05-10-2018, 05:18 PM
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Default Bill of sale

I think you need to send in the 8050-88 regardless of what check box you select.
If you select - ĎMore then 50 percent was misc partsí, then donít send a bill of sale.
If you select - Ďmore then 50 percent was a kití, then attach the bill of sale.
It says this right on the form.
Iím I wrong?
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Old 05-10-2018, 05:29 PM
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Question 51% rule and Approved Kit

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I think you need to send in the 8050-88 regardless of what check box you select.
If you select - ĎMore then 50 percent was misc partsí, then donít send a bill of sale.
If you select - Ďmore then 50 percent was a kití, then attach the bill of sale.
It says this right on the form.
Iím I wrong?
If you do this do you risk being incorrect (aka "misstated" in politician speak) when you check the box that says this is an FAA approved kit?

If it is not an approved kit then there are a lot of calculations needed on an FAA form to show you meet the 51% rule.
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Old 05-10-2018, 05:35 PM
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Would registering the airplane as an assembly of parts vs. a kit also prevent use of the additional pilot during Phase I testing per AC 90-116?
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Old 05-10-2018, 05:35 PM
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If it is not an approved kit then there are a lot of calculations needed on an FAA form to show you meet the 51% rule.
This checklist applies if you do not build from an "approved kit", if you modify the aircraft, and/or if you receive any amount of paid assistance.
The checklist is not difficult but is several pages long.
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